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Staro 23.06.2022., 13:50   #223
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Zaboravio sam tocne brojke ali navodno Amerima ce iskakat osiguraci i instalacije nisu dovoljno dobre za najesen nadolazecu Intel + NV konbinaciju, to ce biti šou program.


Na 120V (kolko ameri imaju napon) treba proci struja osjetno vece Amperaže da bi se žicom - vodićem prenijela veca snaga treba i žica biti deblja - veci presjek / kvadratura.

P (snaga[W]) = U (napon[V]) * I (struja[A])

P = U * I



Intelu nije zaživio ATX 12VO standard s kojim je htio prisilit MBO vendore i PC industriju da ga prihvate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heyGtgdfN7A



Ali eto, sad su napravili novi stadard koji ce biti prihvacen ako ništa drugo za nadolazece generacije GPU kartica iz oba tima.


Vršno opterecenje / peakovi / spajkovi ... s njima ne bi trebalo biti problema sa novim ATX 3.0 standardom ; u prijevodu kupite novo skupo napanje koje ce imat daleko kvalitenije komponente koje to omogućuju.

Intel ATX 3.0 16-pin Power Connector for PCIe Gen5 is Smart, Has Four Power-Delivery Variants



Citiraj:
12HVPWR Cable Plug Connector

4 of those PINS are smaller than the rest and they are there so that power supply and the GPU can actually talk to each other.

Specifically the power supply can tell the GPU what it's capatibilities are which means that if u have a beefy graphic card bu a power supply that can't quite provide all the power it might ask for.

The power suppy can tel the GPU Hey I'm not actually that powerfull. And the PGU's power limit can be lowered to accommodate it.

This should help prevent inexpected instability due to a card drawing too much power.

It aslo means your GPU's performance could be throttled if your power supply isn't up to scratch.




Intel’s ATX 3.0 specs for PCIe Gen5 power cable

ATX 3.0 explained: Why Intel gave power supplies their first overhaul in 20 years



LTT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGHyDuPG1ks


Better GPU spike resistance.

2X max rated wattage - for 10 microseconds for 10% of total running time (nemojte uzet zdravo za gotovo jer drugi navode 3X vršno opterecenje i (unutar) 100 mikrosekundi ; navodim da vidite gdje to sve vodi )

Citiraj:
The PCI SIG has basically outlined the capability of a GPU to exceed the maximum sustained power of the card by 3x. That means a 600 watt card on a PCIe 5.0 12VHPWR connector is allowed to spike to 1,800 watts for 100 micro-seconds.
175 200 power cycles per year (paljenja i gašenja PC-a)

60% efficient at just 10W or 2% load

Imat ce nove certifikate / tier -e napajanja:






Prosjecna potrošnja (standardno opterecenje), te vršno opterecenje / peakovi / spajkovi trenutnih NV kartica unutar 100 i 300 mirko sekundi

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Sve preko 200 - 250W za GPU mi je previše IMHO.

Bilo bi dobro ako ce se smanjem powerlimita i sa afterburner -om moci postaviti idealana performace per wat krivulja jer ovo što NV sad radi je da max cjedi performanse.

Samo da bi (o)držala korak sa AMD om i to po cijeni potrošnje i radne temperature kartice, van svake pameti i krivulje efikasnosti.








Zaboravio sam tocne brojke ali navodno Amerima ce iskakat osiguraci i instalacije nisu dovoljno dobre za najesen nadolazecu Intel + NV konbinaciju, to ce biti šou program.


Na 120V (kolko ameri imaju napon) treba proci struja osjetno vece Amperaže da bi se žicom - vodićem prenijela veca snaga treba i žica biti deblja - veci presjek / kvadratura.

P (snaga[W]) = U (napon[V]) * I (struja[A])

P = U * I



Intelu nije zaživio ATX 12VO standard s kojim je htio prisilit MBO vendore i PC industriju da ga prihvate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heyGtgdfN7A



Ali eto, sad su napravili novi stadard koji ce biti prihvacen ako ništa drugo za nadolazece generacije GPU kartica iz oba tima.


Vršno opterecenje / peakovi / spajkovi ... s njima ne bi trebalo biti problema sa novim ATX 3.0 standardom ; u prijevodu kupite novo skupo napanje koje ce imat daleko kvalitenije komponente koje to omogućuju.

Intel ATX 3.0 16-pin Power Connector for PCIe Gen5 is Smart, Has Four Power-Delivery Variants



Citiraj:
12HVPWR Cable Plug Connector

4 of those PINS are smaller than the rest and they are there so that power supply and the GPU can actually talk to each other.

Specifically the power supply can tell the GPU what it's capatibilities are which means that if u have a beefy graphic card bu a power supply that can't quite provide all the power it might ask for.

The power suppy can tel the GPU Hey I'm not actually that powerfull. And the PGU's power limit can be lowered to accommodate it.

This should help prevent inexpected instability due to a card drawing too much power.

It aslo means your GPU's performance could be throttled if your power supply isn't up to scratch.




Intel’s ATX 3.0 specs for PCIe Gen5 power cable

ATX 3.0 explained: Why Intel gave power supplies their first overhaul in 20 years



LTT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGHyDuPG1ks


Better GPU spike resistance.

2X max rated wattage - for 10 microseconds for 10% of total running time (nemojte uzet zdravo za gotovo jer drugi navode 3X vršno opterecenje i (unutar) 100 mikrosekundi ; navodim da vidite gdje to sve vodi )

Citiraj:
The PCI SIG has basically outlined the capability of a GPU to exceed the maximum sustained power of the card by 3x. That means a 600 watt card on a PCIe 5.0 12VHPWR connector is allowed to spike to 1,800 watts for 100 micro-seconds.
175 200 power cycles per year (paljenja i gašenja PC-a)

60% efficient at just 10W or 2% load

Imat ce nove certifikate / tier -e napajanja:






Prosjecna potrošnja (standardno opterecenje), te vršno opterecenje / peakovi / spajkovi trenutnih NV kartica unutar 100 i 300 mirko sekundi

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