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McG 04.11.2005. 17:11

GeForce 7600 - prije ili kasnije?
 
Strange things are afoot in retail circles. The nVidia 6800 in its PCIe variety has all but disappeared. This leaves nVidia with a huge gap in its mid range wide open for the new 7600.

The reason this is strange is how little fuss has been made. The 6800 being quietly killed off doesn't make much sense with the current line-up. It leaves a well-catered low to mid end. There's the 6200 range starting at around $50 moving up to $70. Then there's the 6600 range taking over from about $70 to $180. Then there's a massive jump to the 7800GT starting at around $330.

A gap of $150 is a killer. It leaves that area of the market entirely to ATI which has plenty of products in that price range. So unless there's going to be a new, cheaper version of the 7800 about to hit the market, does this mean there is going to be a 7600 sooner than expected? Or is it late?

nVidia can't leave that gap open for long. The fact that it is there at all is a major surprise. It must mean that the 7600 or whatever was meant to fill that gap has been delayed because the channel just doesn't clear like that by itself. There are obviously no 6800s going in.

nVidia hadn't managed to comment by the time of going to press but you can expect something to happen soon.

Izvor: www.theinquirer.net

SRV 04.11.2005. 17:53

Eh da ce doci, i kad dodje pitanje je da li ce ih biti na AGP-u. To bih zbilja volio. :clap:

psf[i]-[Tomek] 04.11.2005. 18:22

Rekli su da neće raditi niš novog za AGP. Al' to su bili rekli i za 6600 pa gle HSI bridge i eto ih! Nadaj se!

psf[i]-[Tomek] 22.11.2005. 14:24

From AnandTech:

An industry insider close to NVIDIA provided us with some details about GeForce 7200 and GeForce 7600 launch dates. GeForce 7600 and 7200 have been labeled as G73 and G72 internally on NVIDIA documentation in the past. Expect to see the GeForce 7200 to launch sometime in February, while the GeForce 7600 will receive a much larger launch in March, during Cebit.

Other sources have already confirmed to us that GeForce 7200 and GeForce 7600 will use the same PCB as the older GeForce 6200 and 6600 cards, respectively. Tier 1 manufacturers already report that the only additions they will make to the existing PCB will likely be modifications to the power - some may even include 6-pin SLI connectors for GeForce 7600.

A third industry insider tells us specifications on both products are still being determined as NVIDIA does not need to lock itself into clock speeds 12 weeks before launch.

Lihto 22.11.2005. 14:29

Koga više briga za agp,to je bilo na prošloj generaciji,jer je ta generacija bila prijelazna tak da nema više šanse da će radit nove kartice za agp,PCI-ekspress je sadašnjost

McG 22.11.2005. 14:32

@psf[i]-[Tomek]
Garant da se nemreš strpeti...ajde priznaj.:D Još kad Leadtek i XFX izdaju svoje 7600 predelane zvijeri......pa di bu im kraj, a i tebi.:D

Konan 22.11.2005. 15:31

Citiraj:

[i]Originally posted by psf-[Tomek]
From AnandTech:
Other sources have already confirmed to us that GeForce 7200 and GeForce 7600 will use the same PCB as the older GeForce 6200 and 6600 cards, respectively. Tier 1 manufacturers already report that the only additions they will make to the existing PCB will likely be modifications to the power - some may even include 6-pin SLI connectors for GeForce 7600.

Dakle biti će 128-bitni modeli, dakle koma.

McG 22.11.2005. 15:50

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Originally posted by Konan
Dakle biti će 128-bitni modeli, dakle koma.
Bez obzira na to, kartice se budu prodavale ko lude.

GoGzS 22.11.2005. 16:06

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Originally posted by Konan
Dakle biti će 128-bitni modeli, dakle koma.
Jedan kaže ovo, drugi ovo....bla, bla...to su samo glasine, dok se nešto konkretno nesazna ja ostajem znatiželjan i optimističan :)

Konan 22.11.2005. 18:30

Ako je isti PCB onda je 128 bitna. A mislim da je 6800 GS označila početak 256 bitnih mainstream kartica. Ali vidjeti ćemo. Ali mene više zanima planirani launch r580 u siječnju.

Brain32 22.11.2005. 19:37

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Ali mene više zanima planirani launch r580 u siječnju.
Koje godine? : evil :

ZED 22.11.2005. 19:49

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Originally posted by Brain32
Koje godine? : evil :
: lol2 :

DeadMan+ 22.11.2005. 20:03

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Originally posted by Brain32
Koje godine? : evil :
dobra!!!!!!!!!

: goood :

Kurtz 22.11.2005. 21:03

Ljudi nema sekiranja ako svijetlo dana ugleda PhysX PPU (Physics Processing Unit), tj. cip koji je posvecen samo obradi fizikalnih podataka unutar igara. Uz znaci postojecu graficku i proc., spomenuti cip (naravno u sklopu zasebne PCI ili PCIe kartice) ce obradjivati kompletnu fiziku, cega ce posljedica biti totalno rasterecenje CPU-a i GPU-a. PPU ce odradjivati i collision detection - tj. preponavanje sudara dvaju tijela kao i simulaciju mekih tijela (deformacije) te fiziku svih agregatnih stanja.
Po meni - totalna ludnica - samo da to profunkcionira.

Ima i review-a i demoa:

www.ageia.com
www.pcper.com

Newbie Pro 23.11.2005. 01:55

Da a taj čip će dijeliti uz "24 sata"...treba i to platit, a vjerujem, masno

Kurtz 23.11.2005. 08:36

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Originally posted by Newbie Pro
Da a taj čip će dijeliti uz "24 sata"...treba i to platit, a vjerujem, masno
Da, vani ce biti cijena kartice izmedju 200 i 250 $, znaci kod nas cca.< 1500 KN.

Mozda je bolja takva kombinacija te kartice uz postojecu graficku nego da stalno moramo mijenjat graficke ili neznam nekakve nadogradnje.....

Mislim da ce u buducnosti implementirati taj cip u nove graficke. To mi je nekak najrealnije.

Veki-os 23.11.2005. 12:31

Oče se ta kartica moči samo ubosti u PCI slot i instaliram neke drivere i to ili če to biti moguča samo na nekoj novoj platformi?

McG 23.11.2005. 13:14

Meni se čini da bu to čudo išlo u par varijanti. Recimo PCI kartica, možda i PCI-x1 kartica i naravno ono najskuplje integrirano na istom PCB-u skupa s GPU-om. Imate na BUG-ovom DVD-u filmek kaj taj čip sve more (avion i hangar), pa si pogledajte (ak već niste). Uglavnom stvar bu mnogo skupa........i mnogo tražena.

Konan 23.11.2005. 15:47

Ma to je sve bezveze. Kod fizike je stvar da ju je teško isprogramirati,a nije toliko stvar u brzini procesiranja. Pogledajte HL2 i Pacific Figters(u njemu svi, pa i AI avioni imaju detaljan flight model).

McG 23.11.2005. 16:03

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Originally posted by Konan
Ma to je sve bezveze.
Bezveze ili ne, čip je napravljen i radi. A sad kaj bu neko karticu s tim čipom kupil za šminku i preseravanje (a znamo da se bu našlo i takvih) i naokolo govoril kak mu to baš treba, jer je ne znam ti kakav gamer.........e to je bezveze i totalna glupost. Ak ništ drugo ja čekam da to stigne u ruke recenzenata, pa da vidimo kak stvar šljaka.

GoGzS 23.11.2005. 16:34

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Originally posted by McG
Meni se čini da bu to čudo išlo u par varijanti. Recimo PCI kartica, možda i PCI-x1 kartica i naravno ono najskuplje integrirano na istom PCB-u skupa s GPU-om. Imate na BUG-ovom DVD-u filmek kaj taj čip sve more (avion i hangar), pa si pogledajte (ak već niste). Uglavnom stvar bu mnogo skupa........i mnogo tražena.
Da, filmić sa avionom je jebeno napravljen, a na netu sam našao slikice protopivoa PPU kartica, i oni su napravili PCB tako da s jedne strane imaš PCI priključak a s drge strane PCE-e 4x ak se nevaram (ili je 1x...nesjećam se)

McG 24.11.2005. 00:18

Sam sad ''skopal'' da ASUS namjerava već u veljači 2006. izdati kartice s PhysX čipom.

Evo link


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