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Nikky 28.01.2025. 21:48
Sad si dodaj u kolekciju i drugi njihov program PhotoRec > https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
iako ime vara, inicijalno rađen za spašavanje slika, za spašavanje fajlova čak kad je file sistem koruptiran.

Cuky 28.01.2025. 21:54
Znam za njega, nalazi se integriran u testdisk, koristio sam ga nedavno pri prvom pokusaju recoveryja s tog diska.

Mana mu je jedino sto ne moze izvlacit fileove s njihovim pravim imenima tako da ustvari van dobijes cuspajz u nazivu zbog cega moras otvarat file po file da bi vidio sto je to.

Nikky 29.01.2025. 00:06
Da, zato jer on file traži i vadi direktno sa medija bez da se oslanja na MFT / foldere.

Cuky 29.01.2025. 06:57
Da. Ako nista bar ih vadi van po ekstenziji tako da ako znas sto trazis opet se moze spasit dosta tog 🙂

Mario92 30.01.2025. 20:10
Linux's Sole Wireless/WiFi Driver Maintainer Is Stepping Down

tomek@vz 30.01.2025. 20:39

Viš na , kaj sam rekel. Baš to me brine jer imam osjećaj da je van korporativnog Linux svijeta jako malo akvnih Freelancer Devova koji doprinose kodu.

Nikky 30.01.2025. 20:50
Ni on nije bio "van", piše radi(o) za Qualcomm Atheros :fiju:

strikoo 31.01.2025. 21:15
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/0...s-users-happy/

tomek@vz 05.02.2025. 06:12
Citiraj:
In his post about the future of Fedora Workstation, Christian F.K. Schaller discusses how the Red Hat team plans to integrate AI with IBM's open-source Granite engine to enhance developer tools, such as IDEs, and create an AI-powered Code Assistant. He says the team is also working on streamlining AI acceleration in Toolbx and ensuring Fedora users have access to tools like RamaLama. From the post:
One big item on our list for the year is looking at ways Fedora Workstation can make use of artificial intelligence. Thanks to IBMs Granite effort we know have an AI engine that is available under proper open source licensing terms and which can be extended for many different usecases. Also the IBM Granite team has an aggressive plan for releasing updated versions of Granite, incorporating new features of special interest to developers, like making Granite a great engine to power IDEs and similar tools. We been brainstorming various ideas in the team for how we can make use of AI to provide improved or new features to users of GNOME and Fedora Workstation. This includes making sure Fedora Workstation users have access to great tools like RamaLama, that we make sure setting up accelerated AI inside Toolbx is simple, that we offer a good Code Assistant based on Granite and that we come up with other cool integration points.

tomek@vz 06.02.2025. 21:13
Citiraj:
A heated dispute has erupted in the Linux kernel community over the integration of Rust code, with kernel maintainer Christoph Hellwig likening multiple programming languages to "cancer" for the project's maintainability. The conflict centers on a proposed patch enabling Rust-written device drivers to access the kernel's DMA API, which Hellwig strongly opposed. While the dispute isn't about Rust itself, Hellwig argues that maintaining cross-language codebases severely compromises Linux's integrated nature. From a report: "Don't force me to deal with your shiny language of the day," he [Hellwig] wrote. "Maintaining multi-language projects is a pain I have no interest in dealing with. If you want to use something that's not C, be that assembly or Rust, you write to C interfaces and deal with the impedance mismatch yourself as far as I'm concerned." This resistance follows the September departure of Microsoft engineer Wedson Almeida Filho from the Rust for Linux project, citing "nontechnical nonsense."

Ivo_Strojnica 07.02.2025. 11:01
po meni je to dobro rečeno.
Ne bih ga ni ja ubaciva u kernel, upravo zato jer je new shiny thing.

Cuky 07.02.2025. 12:29
Apsolutno. Taj dio bi trebao ostati van kernela. API imaju pa nek izvole pazit.

tomek@vz 08.02.2025. 07:53
Nije dugo trebalo :kafa:

Citiraj:
Weighing in on yet another Linux kernel spat - this time over Rust device drivers - Linux supremo Linus Torvalds has shot the messenger.
In response to Asahi Linux lead developer Hector Martin's call for Torvalds to "pipe up with an authoritative answer" to resolve the device driver impasse, and Martin's defense of "shaming on social media" as a way to counter the hostility of Linux maintainers to Rust code, Torvalds dismissed the approach and took aim at Martin.
"How about you accept the fact that maybe the problem is you," said Torvalds, who several years ago acknowledged his own difficulty with diplomatic online interaction. "You think you know better. But the current process works.
"It has problems, but problems are a fact of life. There is no perfect.

"However, I will say that the social media brigading just makes me not want to have anything at all to do with your approach.
"Because if we have issues in the kernel development model, then social media sure as hell isn't the solution. The same way it sure as hell wasn't the solution to politics.
"Technical patches and discussions matter. Social media brigading - no thank you."

https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/...s_rust_driver/

tomek@vz 09.02.2025. 06:42
Citiraj:
Does the 'Spirit' of Open Source Mean Much More Than a License?

"Open source can be something of an illusion," writes TechCrunch. "A lack of real independence can mean a lack of agency for those who would like to properly get involved in a project."
Their article makes the case that the "spirit" of open source means more than a license... "Android, in a license sense, is perhaps the most well-documented, perfectly open 'thing' that there is," Luis Villa, co-founder and general counsel at Tidelift, said in a panel discussion at the State of Open Con25 in London this week. "All the licenses are exactly as you want them — but good luck getting a patch into that, and good luck figuring out when the next release even is...."

"If you think about the practical accessibility of open source, it goes beyond the license, right?" Peter Zaitsev, founder of open source database services company Percona, said in the panel discussion. "Governance is very important, because if it's a single corporation, they can change a license like 'that.'" These sentiments were echoed in a separate talk by Dotan Horovits, open source evangelist at the Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF), where he mused about open source "turning to the dark side." He noted that in most cases, issues arise when a single-vendor project decides to make changes based on its own business needs among other pressures. "Which begs the question, is vendor-owned open source an oxymoron?" Horovits said. "I've been asking this question for a good few years, and in 2025 this question is more relevant than ever."
The article adds that in 2025, "These debates won't be going anywhere anytime soon, as open source has emerged as a major focal point in the AI realm." And it includes this quote from Tidelift's co-founder.

"I have my quibbles and concerns about the open source AI definition, but it's really clear that what Llama is doing isn't open source," Villa said. Emily Omier, a consultant for open source businesses and host of the Business of Open Source podcast, added that such attempts to "corrupt" the meaning behind "open source" is testament to its inherent power.

Much of this may be for regulatory reasons, however. The EU AI Act has a special carve-out for "free and open source" AI systems (aside from those deemed to pose an "unacceptable risk"). And Villa says this goes some way toward explaining why a company might want to rewrite the rulebook on what "open source" actually means. "There are plenty of actors right now who, because of the brand equity [of open source] and the regulatory implications, want to change the definition, and that's terrible," Villa said.

tomek@vz 13.02.2025. 14:59
Citiraj:
A years-long legal battle has quietly escalated into what could become the defining moment for the future of GPLv3, with implications that could reshape software freedom as we know it.

At issue is whether licensors have the power to impose 'further restrictions' on open-source software, potentially undermining the explicit rights granted to users and developers under AGPLv3, GPLv3, and LGPLv3.

The outcome of this case, now before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, could set a dangerous precedent, limiting the ability to remove proprietary restrictions from copyleft-licensed software.

With little public attention on the case, the Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC) has stepped up as a key voice in defense of user rights, filing a critical amicus brief to challenge the lower court's ruling and protect the principles of software freedom.

tomek@vz 13.02.2025. 20:54
Citiraj:
Plasma 6.3 has been released. It brings with it a ton of improvements aimed at digital artists, such as much improved management and configuration of drawing tablets. You can now map an area of the tablet’s surface to a part of the screen, change the functions of stylus buttons, customise the pressure curve and range of a stylus, and much more. The entire settings panel for drawing tablets has also been redesigned to make it easier to find what you’re looking for.
Plasma 6.3 also completely overhauls KWin’s fraction scaling. Fractional scaling in KWin will not try to snap everything to your display’s pixel grid, to reduce blurriness and make everything look sharper. KWin’s zoom effect also makes use of these improvements, making for a pixel-perfect zoom feature with a pixel grid overlay, which is great for artists and designers. This will be a very welcome improvement for people using e.g. 125% or 150% scaling on their displays.
Hardware monitoring is much improved too, with System Monitor showing more information while using fewer resources, and KDE users on FreeBSD can now see GPU statistics too. There’s also a ton of small additions that are still quite welcome, like opening the menu editor instead of a properties dialog when clicking on Edit Application in a launcher menu’s context menu, the ability to clone panels, an option to turn of symbolic icons in Kickoff, a “Show Target” option in the context menu of symbolic links, and a lot more.
Mislim da je vrijeme da opet puknem Arch ili neki drugi bleeding edge distro na novi stroj (Lenovo LOQ 15AHP9 Ryzen 5 8645HS/RTX 4050) da vidim kolko je skaliranje u KDE u odnosu na Gnome. Na lapu , 2k reza sve izgleda dobro dok ne pokrenem wine ili nekaj van standardnog Gnome sustava. To je tolko sitno da moram doslovce uzet povecalo da ista iscitam. Opcija skaliranja fontova u winecfg ne radi bas nist.

Nadalje kad vec gundam - jel imao tko problema kad pusta mjuzu i upali nesto iole I/O intenzivno (npr. Firefox) da zvuk na sekundu nestane - i to svako malo dok aplikacija radi. Pošto je pipewire u pitanju stari trik sa tsched=0 vise ne sljaka.

Code:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14e8
00:00.2 IOMMU: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14e9
00:01.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ea
00:01.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ed
00:02.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ea
00:02.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ee
00:02.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ee
00:02.3 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ed
00:03.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ea
00:04.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ea
00:08.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ea
00:08.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14eb
00:08.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14eb
00:08.3 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14eb
00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller (rev 71)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH LPC Bridge (rev 51)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14f0
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14f1
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14f2
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14f3
00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14f4
00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14f5
00:18.6 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14f6
00:18.7 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14f7
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation AD107M [GeForce RTX 4050 Max-Q / Mobile] (rev a1)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation AD107 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 15)
03:00.0 Network controller: MEDIATEK Corp. MT7921 802.11ax PCI Express Wireless Network Adapter
04:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Micron Technology Inc 2400 NVMe SSD (DRAM-less) (rev 03)
05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Phoenix3 (rev c6)
05:00.2 Encryption controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 19h (Model 74h) CCP/PSP 3.0 Device
05:00.3 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 15b9
05:00.4 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 15ba
05:00.5 Multimedia controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] ACP/ACP3X/ACP6x Audio Coprocessor (rev 63)
05:00.6 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h/19h HD Audio Controller
06:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ec
06:00.1 Signal processing controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] AMD IPU Device
07:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ec
07:00.3 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 15c0
07:00.4 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 15c1
P.S. - yep cari Desktop Linux iskustva out of the box u 2025. Mozemo vrtjeti OS u PDF fajlu ali nakon 20 godina i dalje ista ili slicna sranja sto se Desktop iskustva tice.

Ivo_Strojnica 14.02.2025. 08:04
bome nisam imao taj problem sa zvukom, također pipewire.
jel ti možda nakratko prebaci output u neki drugi?
To je meni znala raditi stara fedora, mislim 22.

spiderhr 14.02.2025. 08:04
Citiraj:
Autor tomek@vz (Post 3788967)
Nadalje kad vec gundam - jel imao tko problema kad pusta mjuzu i upali nesto iole I/O intenzivno (npr. Firefox) da zvuk na sekundu nestane - i to svako malo dok aplikacija radi. Pošto je pipewire u pitanju stari trik sa tsched=0 vise ne sljaka.

Je meni nestane, Debian 12 Mate. Puštam iz FF-a mjuzu a upalim recimo Chrome ili Operu i nestane na sekundu. A i na pojačalo ide preko BT (mali adaper koji sam spominjao na drugoj temi).

tomek@vz 14.02.2025. 08:28
Citiraj:
Autor Ivo_Strojnica (Post 3789006)
bome nisam imao taj problem sa zvukom, također pipewire.
jel ti možda nakratko prebaci output u neki drugi?
To je meni znala raditi stara fedora, mislim 22.

Nisam primjetio. Moram testirat kad uzmognem prek HDMI dal je isti problem pa test sa Fedora KDE i ak nebu pomaka sa jos par distri da vidim dal ima ikakvih pomaka. Problem sam zasad na zvucnicima lapa i preko 3.5mm out na sluskama primjetio. Na 11-ci te probleme nemam , stroj radi milina tak da nije HW problem. A najvise me od svega hebe sto nemam vise vremena za ta kemijanja i testiranja.


@spiderhr > koju konfa?

spiderhr 14.02.2025. 10:20
Doduše je da je stariji Lenovo
I7-4510U
6GB Rama

D12
Kernel 6.1.0-28-amd64
Mate 1.26.0

Instaliran pipewire 0.33.65-3+deb12u1

ovo daje lspci


Code:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT DRAM Controller (rev 0b)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)
00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller (rev 0b)
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series USB xHCI HC (rev 04)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series HECI #0 (rev 04)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev 04)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev e4)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev e4)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 5 (rev e4)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series USB EHCI #1 (rev 04)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series LPC Controller (rev 04)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series SATA Controller 1 [AHCI mode] (rev 04)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 8 Series SMBus Controller (rev 04)
01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 10)
02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 3160 (rev 93)
03:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sun LE [Radeon HD 8550M / R5 M230]
Doduše ja sam mislio da je to zbog starijeg stroja i kaj nema previše rama pa dođe blizu tih 6 gb.

Jer zna biti upaljen VSC, FF s dosta tabova i thunderbird. Pa kada lupim Chrome ili Operu za test zna prekinut.




Krivi lspci sam dao.

tomek@vz 15.02.2025. 10:53
Citiraj:
Tumbleweed—openSUSE's rolling release Linux distro—has made a significant change, swapping AppArmor for SELinux for new installs....

https://www.webpronews.com/opensuse-...over-apparmor/


Nije popularan kao Fedora/Debian (ili onaj treci kojeg necu spominjat) ali iz nekog razloga sam se uvijek svako malo vracao na OpenSuse. Istina da je uvijek zahtjevao vise koraka za isti cilj kao Fedora ali je uvijek prednjacio u jednome - imao je najbolju i najispoliraniju implementaciju KDE sučelja + YAST (nekaj tipa control center na Windowsima) kaj je za novopečene Linux korisnike bio zgodan dodatak dok je power userima i adminima koji vole svoje configove radit bio trn u oku zbog prepisivanja istih. Selinux je kompleksniji ali po mom misljenju i sposobniji sustav zastite samog sebe od neovlastenog prckanja tak da mislim da je ovo ok potez.

tomek@vz 15.02.2025. 10:56
Citiraj:
Autor spiderhr (Post 3789025)
Doduše je da je stariji Lenovo
I7-4510U
6GB Rama

D12
Kernel 6.1.0-28-amd64
Mate 1.26.0

Instaliran pipewire 0.33.65-3+deb12u1

ovo daje lspci


Code:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT DRAM Controller (rev 0b)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)
00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller (rev 0b)
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series USB xHCI HC (rev 04)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series HECI #0 (rev 04)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev 04)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev e4)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev e4)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 5 (rev e4)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series USB EHCI #1 (rev 04)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series LPC Controller (rev 04)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series SATA Controller 1 [AHCI mode] (rev 04)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 8 Series SMBus Controller (rev 04)
01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 10)
02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 3160 (rev 93)
03:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sun LE [Radeon HD 8550M / R5 M230]
Doduše ja sam mislio da je to zbog starijeg stroja i kaj nema previše rama pa dođe blizu tih 6 gb.

Jer zna biti upaljen VSC, FF s dosta tabova i thunderbird. Pa kada lupim Chrome ili Operu za test zna prekinut.

Krivi lspci sam dao.

Nije do RAM-a. Ja sam mislio da je do drivera ili firmwera al mi se sve vise cini da je neki PCI Interrupt možda u pitanju jer imam na poslu skoro identičan Thinkpad prema tvojim specifikacijama i tamo radi Linux ko beba. Danas isprobam jos par distri pa javim dojmove sa svoje kante.

tomek@vz 15.02.2025. 13:48
Rezime za audio probleme i skaliranje aplikacija > na Fedori nekaj fali. KDE ista problematika. Opensuse Tumbleweed sa KDE sučeljem > oboje radi kak bi trebalo sa defaultnim kernelom 6.13.1. Vrijeme je da ispušem prašinu sa ansible skripti za SuSe :lol2:.

Dule 15.02.2025. 15:39
Citiraj:
Autor tomek@vz (Post 3788967)
Pošto je pipewire u pitanju
Jel ti stvarno treba Pipewire, jel ALSA opcija?

Ne znam kako je to složeno na Fedori ali otkad je PulseAudio i Pipewire stacka kod mene uvijek nešto za*ebava, neovisno o distri. Mislim što očekivati kad imaš layer iznad layera iznad layera i samo se gradi ko kula od karata. Kod mene je jedino ALSA radila predvidljivo i stabilno na 3-4 različite mašine.

Citiraj:
Autor tomek@vz (Post 3788967)
P.S. - yep cari Desktop Linux iskustva out of the box u 2025. Mozemo vrtjeti OS u PDF fajlu ali nakon 20 godina i dalje ista ili slicna sranja sto se Desktop iskustva tice.
Da citiram lika iz FUTO software (credit mkey post na freeware temi)

Citiraj:
From 2002 to the present, two things remain true:
  • You can do cool things with GNU/Linux.
  • These cool things are hidden behind a labyrinth of
    • Half baked software.
    • Horrible UI.
    • Forum elitists & gaslighting assholes who will make you think YOU’RE the crazy one for expecting things to work.
    • People that will tell you to “RTFM” with no regard for whether that documentation actually works.
    • black boxes. I mean literally hidden behind actual black boxes. For six months. Unfixed. On the stable version of a server operating system (that bug is present in 24.10 long-term-stable even today).
So much of the open source user experience is not designed for normal people. Whether it was using NDISwrapper 20 years ago to get wifi to work or messing with SCSI emulation to burn a CD, GNU/Linux is pain. It’s all pain.

It’s painful enough that people will happily trade their data, sovereignty, privacy, and their rights to avoid ever having to deal with it; and I can’t blame them.

This has to change. As of 2024, most of you live your life:
  1. Dependent on closed source software.
  2. Running on someone else’s server where you can be kicked off at any time.
  3. Forced into forced arbitration or your device won’t work anymore.
  4. With no privacy.
  5. Training AI with your creations.
  6. Now is a time like no other for you to feel empowered to build systems that you control & understand.

Ivo_Strojnica 15.02.2025. 17:10
Joj, meni taj Suse nikako ne sjeda.
Bas kompliciraju sa extra koracima....krenem sa mazohizmom, ali menprodje nakon tjedan dana.

Svaka ti čast sta ti se da.

spiderhr 15.02.2025. 17:38
Citiraj:
Autor tomek@vz (Post 3789222)
Rezime za audio probleme i skaliranje aplikacija > na Fedori nekaj fali. KDE ista problematika. Opensuse Tumbleweed sa KDE sučeljem > oboje radi kak bi trebalo sa defaultnim kernelom 6.13.1. Vrijeme je da ispušem prašinu sa ansible skripti za SuSe :lol2:.

Meni se ne da ići na nešto drugo, naviknuo se na Debiana. Čak mi ne iritira taj mali prekid.

tomek@vz 15.02.2025. 18:42
Citiraj:
Autor Dule (Post 3789235)
Jel ti stvarno treba Pipewire, jel ALSA opcija?

Ne znam kako je to složeno na Fedori ali otkad je PulseAudio i Pipewire stacka kod mene uvijek nešto za*ebava, neovisno o distri. Mislim što očekivati kad imaš layer iznad layera iznad layera i samo se gradi ko kula od karata. Kod mene je jedino ALSA radila predvidljivo i stabilno na 3-4 različite mašine.

Da citiram lika iz FUTO software (credit mkey post na freeware temi)

Žalosno ali istinito. Softwer se ispolira tek kad dođe u ruke komercijali, htjeli mi to priznati ili ne. Kaj se Pulseaudio/Pipewire/Alse tiče - hendling vise audio izlaza kroz Gnome/KDE je bolje riješen sa nativnim alatima. Pulsaudio je u početku zajebavao (pred cca 15 godina ak se ne varam) al nakon par mjeseci se sve to stabiliziralo. Imao sam jedan stroj na kojem je kvaliteta zvuka varirala ali sam rijesio sa tsched=0 opcijom. Ovo je nekaj novo. Možda se u idućoj Fedori ispravi. Al OpenSuSe takoder koristi Pipewire pa nema problema. Znaci neka optimizacija ili fali ili sere. zasad se drzim OpenSuse na ovom stroju, ionak mi ne igra ulogu jel Fedora, Suse il Debian.
Citiraj:
Autor Ivo_Strojnica (Post 3789242)
Joj, meni taj Suse nikako ne sjeda.
Bas kompliciraju sa extra koracima....krenem sa mazohizmom, ali menprodje nakon tjedan dana.

Svaka ti čast sta ti se da.


Ni meni nije prvi izbor zbog , u nekim stvarima čudnih odabira defaultnih postavki ili izmjene koda gdje ga ne treba biti. openSuse je pain samo u startu. Kad shvatiš što, gdje i kako možeš si bash ili ansible skriptu posložit koja sve te čudne stvari poravna kako ti želiš. I onda ti prebace SystemD na ovaj novi standard gdje ti je /etc u /usr/etc pa moras sve ponovo čekirat i prepravljat. Dobro da imamo alate poput sed i awk pa izmjena pada relativno jednostavno bez obzira koliko se configova i yaml fajlova radi. Al nije takav bauk, samo zahtjeva više truda u startu. I kao što sam već gore napisao - Fedorina implementacija KDE sučelja je solidna, ali OpenSuse je na sasvim drugoj razini. Imaš osjećaj da si za puno ispoliranijem OS-u.

tomek@vz 17.02.2025. 06:18
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For over a decade Karol Herbst has been a developer on the open-source Nouveau driver, a reverse-engineered NVIDIA graphics driver for Linux. "He went on to become employed by Red Hat," notes Phoronix. "While he's known more these days for his work on the Mesa 3D Graphics Library and the Rusticl OpenCL driver for it, he's still remained a maintainer of the Nouveau kernel driver."

But Saturday Herbst stepped down as a nouveau kernel maintainer, in a mailing list message that begins "I was pondering with myself for a while if I should just make it official that I'm not really involved in the kernel community anymore, neither as a reviewer, nor as a maintainer." (Another message begins "I often thought about at least contributing some patches again once I find the time, but...")

Their resignation message hints at some long-running unhappiness. "I got burned out enough by myself caring about the bits I maintained, but eventually I had to realize my limits. The obligation I felt was eating me from inside. It stopped being fun at some point and I reached a point where I simply couldn't continue the work I was so motivated doing as I've did in the early days." And they point to one specific discussion on the kernel mailing list February 8th as "The moment I made up my mind."

It happened in a thread about whether Rust would create difficulty for maintainers. (Someone had posted that "The all powerful sub-system maintainer model works well if the big technology companies can employ omniscient individuals in these roles, but those types are a bit hard to come by.") In response, someone else had posted "I'll let you in a secret. The maintainers are not 'all-powerful'. We are the 'thin blue line' that is trying to keep the code to be maintainable and high quality. Like most leaders of volunteer organization, whether it is the Internet Engineerint Task Force (the standards body for the Internet), we actually have very little power. We can not *command* people to work on retiring technical debt, or to improve testing infrastructure, or work on some particular feature that we'd very like for our users. All we can do is stop things from being accepted..."

Saturday Herbst wrote: The moment I made up my mind about this was reading the following words written by a maintainer within the kernel community:

"we are the thin blue line"

This isn't okay. This isn't creating an inclusive environment. This isn't okay with the current political situation especially in the US. A maintainer speaking those words can't be kept. No matter how important or critical or relevant they are. They need to be removed until they learn. Learn what those words mean for a lot of marginalized people. Learn about what horrors it evokes in their minds.

I can't in good faith remain to be part of a project and its community where those words are tolerated. Those words are not technical, they are a political statement. Even if unintentionally, such words carry power, they carry meanings one needs to be aware of. They do cause an immense amount of harm.
The phrase thin blue line "typically refers to the concept of the police as the line between law-and-order and chaos," according to Wikipedia, but more recently became associated with a"countermovement" to the Black Lives Matter movement and "a number of far-right movements in the U.S."

Phoronix writes: Lyude Paul and Danilo Krummrich both of Red Hat remain Nouveau kernel maintainers. Red Hat developers are also working on developing NOVA as the new Rust-based open-source NVIDIA kernel driver leveraging the GSP interface for Turing GPUs and newer.

Zé. 18.02.2025. 09:11
Planiram preći na linux. Za home edition pretpostavljam da je najbolji ubuntu?

https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop

Zadnje verzije za downloadati su 24.04.1 LTS i 24.10.

Razlika je jedino u tome što 24.04.1 LTS ima support 5 godina a 24.10 ima support 9 mjeseci. Što bi više odgovaralo linux početniku?

xlr 18.02.2025. 09:40
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Autor Zé. (Post 3789611)
Što bi više odgovaralo linux početniku?
Linux Mint, jel. Pogotovo ako si dugo boravio na Windowsima.

Topla preporuka, nemoj se emotivno vezati za Linux prvih par mjeseci, da ne kazem godinu dana, i ostavi si otvorena vrata za laki povratak na ono sto si prije koristio. Drugim rijecima, nemoj formatirati trenutni OS i pregaziti ga Linuxom. Prosao sam to jedno 3-4 puta. Nije sve za svakoga :)

tomek@vz 18.02.2025. 10:24
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Autor xlr (Post 3789628)
Linux Mint, jel. Pogotovo ako si dugo boravio na Windowsima.

Topla preporuka, nemoj se emotivno vezati za Linux prvih par mjeseci, da ne kazem godinu dana, i ostavi si otvorena vrata za laki povratak na ono sto si prije koristio. Drugim rijecima, nemoj formatirati trenutni OS i pregaziti ga Linuxom. Prosao sam to jedno 3-4 puta. Nije sve za svakoga :)

Potpis ko kuca. :chears:

Mommistake 18.02.2025. 12:37
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Autor Zé. (Post 3789611)
Planiram preći na linux. Za home edition pretpostavljam da je najbolji ubuntu?

https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop

Zadnje verzije za downloadati su 24.04.1 LTS i 24.10.

Razlika je jedino u tome što 24.04.1 LTS ima support 5 godina a 24.10 ima support 9 mjeseci. Što bi više odgovaralo linux početniku?
Zašto bi prešao na Linux?

Ako je, kao dosta pojedinaca danas, u neke privatne svrhe da se Windows zamjeni nekim Linuxom s UI-om, koristiti ga kao gaming mašinu ili nešto slično, svakako to ne preporučam, radije ostani na Windowsu.

Ako si stvarno spreman se spustiti u teriman i početi raditi kak treba, onda svakako kreni s Mintom. I forsiraj se da odmah kreneš sve kroz terminal.

Kad jednom zagrebeš površinu osnovnim naredbama, kad skužiš čari i moći Linuxa, onda si na konju, kasnije lako zamjeniš Ubuntu nekom drugom distribucijom.

Na žalost, najbolji način za naučiti Linux je ustvari raditi na njemu, koliko god teško bilo. Kad jednom legne, nema dalje. Više niti ne kopiram file bez terminala, čak i kad Macbook koristim.

Dule 18.02.2025. 12:44
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I forsiraj se da odmah kreneš sve kroz terminal.
Uz napomenu da ne unosiš ništa u terminal ako ne razumiješ što točno naredba radi. Vidio sam hrpu puta da ekipa googla problem, nađe neki post na forumu iz 2011., copy/pastea 5-6 naredbi u root shell bez razumijevanja i odjednom OS više ne boota.

Kreni polako i sa razumijevanjem (ovo sa dual-bootom je odličan savjet), držeći na umu da Linux nije Windows i da stvari rade drukčije.

https://github.com/user-attachments/...9-a9643884b38e

xlr 18.02.2025. 13:25
Meni Linux super lezi u homelab okruzenju, sve mi je na Linuxu. Ali eto pokusao vise puta preci na Fedoru i Mint, uvijek nesto negdje "ne radi" i onda zavrsim debagirajuci neke sitnice danima i pokusavajuci postici da radi "kao u Windowsima". Treba se kompletno otkaciti od tog stava sto meni ne polazi za rukom jer sam star, plastican i nemam vremena za takve promjene. I to nije problem Linuxa

Libertus 18.02.2025. 14:15
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Zašto bi prešao na Linux?



Ako je, kao dosta pojedinaca danas, u neke privatne svrhe da se Windows zamjeni nekim Linuxom s UI-om, koristiti ga kao gaming mašinu ili nešto slično, svakako to ne preporučam, radije ostani na Windowsu.



Ako si stvarno spreman se spustiti u teriman i početi raditi kak treba, onda svakako kreni s Mintom. I forsiraj se da odmah kreneš sve kroz terminal.



Kad jednom zagrebeš površinu osnovnim naredbama, kad skužiš čari i moći Linuxa, onda si na konju, kasnije lako zamjeniš Ubuntu nekom drugom distribucijom.



Na žalost, najbolji način za naučiti Linux je ustvari raditi na njemu, koliko god teško bilo. Kad jednom legne, nema dalje. Više niti ne kopiram file bez terminala, čak i kad Macbook koristim.
Ako se mogu ljubazno ne složiti.

Mint je top za instalirati baš za to što si napisao da ne radi. Osobno ga godinama koristim za isto. Radi bez problema kao kućni kompjuter za cijelu obitelj, nema virusa, nema reklama, nema gluposti.

Terminal me ne zanima osim kada moram., a to je rijetko.

tomek@vz 18.02.2025. 14:26
Dakle rezime za OP-a. AKo jos nisi nikad isprobao Linux > igraj se najprije u virtualci. Nije bas da za sve moras konzolu koristiti, ja sve sto radim nakon instalacije mogu odraditi bez posezanja za konzolom (samo sam mazohist pa samo konzolu koristim). Ak ti se svidi slozi si dual boot (50GB diska mu dovoljno) cisto da vidis dal ti sve radi kako si zamislio. Ako ces nakon mjesec - dva vidjet da ti sve sto zelis radi i nemas nuspojava > go for it.

Mommistake 18.02.2025. 14:41
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Ako se mogu ljubazno ne složiti.

Mint je top za instalirati baš za to što si napisao da ne radi. Osobno ga godinama koristim za isto. Radi bez problema kao kućni kompjuter za cijelu obitelj, nema virusa, nema reklama, nema gluposti.

Terminal me ne zanima osim kada moram., a to je rijetko.
Imam razumijevanja za to, meni GUI nije sjeo, konzola mi donosi kruh na stolu. Nisam nikad imao potrebe za Linuxom ustvari privatno. Posao me odvukao na to da moram biti Linux znalac, ako se tako mogu nazvati.

Kada sam ustvari krenuo s Linuxom, nisam baš bio oduševljen.

Sada, nakon 10+ godina, ne mogu bez njega. :D

Bubba 18.02.2025. 14:42
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Ako si stvarno spreman se spustiti u teriman i početi raditi kak treba, onda svakako kreni s Mintom. I forsiraj se da odmah kreneš sve kroz terminal.

Kad jednom zagrebeš površinu osnovnim naredbama, kad skužiš čari i moći Linuxa, onda si na konju, kasnije lako zamjeniš Ubuntu nekom drugom distribucijom.

Na žalost, najbolji način za naučiti Linux je ustvari raditi na njemu, koliko god teško bilo. Kad jednom legne, nema dalje. Više niti ne kopiram file bez terminala, čak i kad Macbook koristim.
Ti znas da "terminal" nije svojstvo ekskluzivno vezano za "Linux"? I ako smo kod toga, PowerShell je fakultet i akademija za bash i derivate.

Tako da taj argument nema veze ni sa cime.

@OP, uzivaj u Mintu.

Mommistake 18.02.2025. 14:56
Realnost je takva da 99% ljudi koji rade na Windowsu ne rade u PowerShellu ili terminalu bilo kakve vrste. Osim eventualno sitnice, gdje se sitnice ne uče nego googlaju.

S druge strane, 95% PC usera ne koristi Linux kao svoj "home workstation".

Oni koji koriste Linux u privatne svrhe, konzola im nije strana, ali opet na poslovnoj razini, Linux pokriva 95% VM-ova diljem svijeta, naravno, konzola.

PowerShell, bez obzira što ima napredniju sintaxu, ljudi ga ne koriste u obujmu kakvom konzolu koriste Linux useri. Realno, jer nema potrebe, Windowsa je malo općenito u svijetu virtualizacije.

Zato sam i pitao za svrhu. Ako čovjek želi naučiti koristiti Linux kako bi se on trebao koristiti i za što je osmišljen, možda jednog dana i monetizirati svoje znanje, onda svakako preporučam krenuti odmah u konzolu. UI nisam koristio, kao što sam gore napisao.

Bubba 18.02.2025. 15:14
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Autor Mommistake (Post 3789695)
Realnost je takva da 99% ljudi koji rade na Windowsu ne rade u PowerShellu ili terminalu bilo kakve vrste.
Onda ne bude sigurno to radio ni na jednom drugom OS-u.


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