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D-I-A-B-L-O 03.12.2010. 06:28
Malo povratka u prošlost hehehe (X1900 xtx Toxic) :)

Exe 07.12.2010. 13:10
Ima li kakve razlike između Asusa i Gigabyte grafičkih kartica 580GTX, ili je to sve jedno te isto. Ne znam za koju se odlučiti a Asus je i skuplji 50 Eura.

snob 07.12.2010. 13:20
Nema.
Sto jeftiniju,iako u tom segmentu je svejedno kolika je razlika,50E neces ni osjetit.

fran123456 07.12.2010. 14:10
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Autor Exe (Post 1795311)
Ima li kakve razlike između Asusa i Gigabyte grafičkih kartica 580GTX, ili je to sve jedno te isto. Ne znam za koju se odlučiti a Asus je i skuplji 50 Eura.
Btw, nadam se da je nećeš stavljati na ovaj procesor ako se za nju odlučiš.

Doink the Clown 07.12.2010. 14:13
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Autor fran123456 (Post 1795351)
Btw, nadam se da je nećeš stavljati na ovaj procesor ako se za nju odlučiš.
Yup, nadogradnja konfe bar s jednim Q procom a i još 2 gige memorije ne bi škodilo ubaciti da sve to ''diše'' kako treba.

Exe 07.12.2010. 14:18
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Autor fran123456 (Post 1795351)
Btw, nadam se da je nećeš stavljati na ovaj procesor ako se za nju odlučiš.
Neću stavljati na taj komp, imam novi baziran na LGA1156 sa i7 860, 4GB DDR3, Corsair HX750W.

Inače moje pitanje o referentnim karticama se odnosilo na kvalitetu dijelova, da li Asus na svoje stavlja bolje dijelove.
Odan sam Gainwardu i Asusu, pa mi je sad čudno nekako preći na Gigabyte.

Upravo sam saznao da više i nema ove Asusove za kupiti.

gumeni 08.12.2010. 10:05
evo par slika koje sam jučer uslikao...kolega uzeo grafulju tu.. :D

http://img269.imageshack.us/i/07122010574.jpg/
http://img835.imageshack.us/i/07122010576.jpg/

Pupo 08.12.2010. 16:37
http://overclockingpin.com/EVGA%20SR...sr2-frozen.jpg


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Autor Chiron (Post 1792206)
šteta sto to neće bit nabavljivo kod nas :)

Pa složiš si sam vodeno za razliku u cijeni između te i obične :)

Doink the Clown 08.12.2010. 16:42
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Autor Pupo (Post 1796248)
http://overclockingpin.com/EVGA%20SR...sr2-frozen.jpg

Pa složiš si sam vodeno za razliku u cijeni između te i obične :)
Kad smo već kod vodenjaka i POV je predstavio svoju ''Beštiju'' :)

http://www.techpowerup.com/135688/Po...hics-Card.html

Pupo 08.12.2010. 16:58
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Autor Doink the Clown (Post 1796256)
Kad smo već kod vodenjaka i POV je predstavio svoju ''Beštiju'' :)

http://www.techpowerup.com/135688/Po...hics-Card.html
E ovo je već prava stvar :goood: I kartica izgleda ok s tim blokom, za razliku od POV grafike na zračnim karticama koja mi je najgadnija od svih kartica :D


EK blok

Doink the Clown 09.12.2010. 11:34
POV-ica stigla u ADM.

http://www.adm.hr/product_info.php?c...oducts_id=9435

snob 09.12.2010. 11:38
Da dode do 3500kn,i da onda fino uleti GTX570 za nekih 2500.
To bi bilo vec nesto :).

Doink the Clown 09.12.2010. 11:43
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Autor snob (Post 1796701)
Da dode do 3500kn,i da onda fino uleti GTX570 za nekih 2500.
To bi bilo vec nesto :).
A čuj, treba još vidjeti kad AMD izbaci svoje kartice koje će izravno konkurirati Nvidiji po performansama i po cijeni. Nadam se da će zelenaši nakon toga još korigirati svoje cijene na dolje :)

Btw. u Protisu je cca 150kn jeftinija.

http://www.protis.hr/products/detail...en-sands/39891

snob 09.12.2010. 12:00
http://www.protis.hr/products/detail...-charged/39203

Kako se smjesi ova grafa :D.
Ma super su to cijene,tek su krenule dolazit,taman kroz tjedan ce past na 3500kn,a jos kad AMDove dodu,GTX570 i malo se trziste smiri,mogli bi ocekivati lijepe cijene za blagdane :)!

Exe 16.12.2010. 19:10
Kupio sam Asus 580GTX, još sam u fazi testiranja i nije sve sklopljeno i stavljeno u kučište ali imam jedno pitanje.
Probao sam Crysis Warhead dx9 na 1680x1050 sve na Entuziast bez AA daje skor 59,80fps.Stavim 4XAA onda je 51,20fps , a kad sam bez veze stavio 16QxAA onda je 50,10fps.
Probao sam u samoj igri i razlika između 4AA i 16AA u broju fps-a je jako mala, skoro nikakva. Je li to moguče ili mi nešto ne radi dobro sa driverima.
Proc je i7860, 4GB rama, Corsair HX 750W i Win 7 Ultimate 64bit

Još sam samo probao 3DMark Vantage skor je 27985

snob 16.12.2010. 19:17
Pa kaj je warhead za nju...
50fpsa sa 16QX,jos da ju OCas i jos da proc kloknes,isuse kriste kakva grafa :D.
Sve ti dobro radi!

MAGARAC 16.12.2010. 19:29
GTX 580 vrti 1920 x 1080 i 4xaa sa skoro 60fps i to u dx10. Po meni je grafa totalni overkill za tu rezu i nebi me cudilo da uopce ne dode do nekog izrazaja. Preporuka, prodaj monitor i uzmi bar 1920x1080 ak vec nemas.

Exe 16.12.2010. 19:38
Znam da je Warhead star skoro 2 godine, ali mi je čudno da je tak mala razlika između 4xaa i 16xaa. Morali bi fps-i pasti malo više, pa sam mislio da driveri nekaj ne brljaju.
Moram probati još neke igre, pa javim kak radi.

Najviše sam se iznenadio kaj nema više onog cvrčanja i zavijanja u igrama kad je visoki fps, jer su mi zadnje dvije generacije nVidie cvrčale.

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Autor MAGARAC (Post 1802596)
GTX 580 vrti 1920 x 1080 i 4xaa sa skoro 60fps i to u dx10. Po meni je grafa totalni overkill za tu rezu i nebi me cudilo da uopce ne dode do nekog izrazaja. Preporuka, prodaj monitor i uzmi bar 1920x1080 ak vec nemas.
Preporuka ti je dobra, ali nemam više love i ovo budem plačal do 7 mj.

MAGARAC 16.12.2010. 19:57
Meni ne cvrci nista jos od gtx 260. Steta kaj ti nije gtx 570 ranije dosla jer bi ustedio puno novaca i mogao bi bez problema nadoplatit za veci monitor. Ekipa vrti 1680x1050 sa gtx 460 bez problema i kompromisa. Nista ak bude dobra prilika za neki polovan monitor probaj to iskoristit jer ti je ovo totalno neisplativa kombinacija i obavezno klokni taj proc ak vec nisi..

Exe 17.12.2010. 11:32
Probao COD Black Ops trza ko blesav, a na toj istoj konfiguraciji samo je bila 8800GTS 512 je igra letjela.
Stavim Mafia2 ne radi sa PhysX, jedva 30 fps-a.Bez njega i sa AA zakucano na 60.Inače mi PhysX radi noramalno u svi testovim.
Danas nemam sreće:D

Doink the Clown 17.12.2010. 16:02
Zotac Readies New GTX 580 Extreme Edition Graphics Card with Strong VRM
 
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Zotac is flexing its engineering muscle again. Known for several novelty high-end non-reference design graphics cards, Zotac's latest work is based on the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580, and revolves around backing the GPU and memory with a strong VRM. So complex is its VRM circuit, that it extends the PCB's height by a good one inch. The VRM consists of over 16 phases, making use of high-grade chokes, capacitors, POSCAPs, and prodalizers. Power is drawn in from 8-pin and 6-pin power connectors.

To cool the beast, there's a monolithic aluminum heatsink that runs through all corners of the PCB, cooling MOSFETs and memory chips. The GPU is cooled by a 2+ slot air cooler that makes use of two 120 mm fans blowing air onto a dense aluminum fin array. This cooler can be detached, and a universal water block for the GPU can be used without having to worry about cooling other components. Although the clock speeds aren't known, one can expect them to either be high, or moderately high leaving a large overclocking headroom. Zotac will brand this card "Zotac GTX 580 Extreme Edition".
http://i.tpucdn.com/img/10-12-17/103a_thm.jpg http://i.tpucdn.com/img/10-12-17/103b_thm.jpg

http://www.techpowerup.com/136582/Zo...trong-VRM.html

Perverzno konstruirana hladnjača za ohladit VRM na ovoj zvjerki.

demetrius 17.12.2010. 17:20
onda se od zotaca mora očekivat 1 gzh za gpu.

NumbDigger 19.12.2010. 22:33
Čitam 1. stranicu ovog topica, i moram reći da je prava poslastica.

Toliko FAIL-anih prognoza, a moram priznati da mi je najsmješniji kolega forumaš McG koji je GTX 580 proglasio 'hoax-om'.

Virtualnom grafom koja je plasirana da bi se, je li, pokvario AMD-ov Cayman launch.

Kad ono gtx 580 izasao ranije od Caymana,
koji jadan muku muči sa Nvidijinim 2nd ešalonom u vidu GTX 570. lulz

Alfa_R 20.12.2010. 10:36
Svejedno kartica nema na bacanje i zato nema ni rata cijenama. Nvidija jedva proda koju, a ati ima cijeli spektar od najslabijih, do malo starijih (5870) do novijih (6870-6970)..

Nvidija ne može spustiti cijenu (jer nema čime pokriti toliku prodaju) a atiju se ne isplati kad dominira tržištem.

No sa korisnikovog stajališta - da, gtx 5xx je super serija i u hrvatskoj sa trenutnim cijenama puno bolji izbor od 69xx serje.

NumbDigger 20.12.2010. 11:50
Hmm...da. Nvidija nema bajnu dostupnost, a to se posebice pokazalo nakon Cayman launcha

Alfa_R 20.12.2010. 12:02
pojasni malo što želiš reći?

NumbDigger 20.12.2010. 12:12
Pa nakon Cayman launcha je doslo do OUT OF STOCK GTX 580 na Neweggu. Naručiš i moraš čekati na isporuku.

Alfa_R 20.12.2010. 12:19
Kužim. Ono malo se razgrabilo. Neutralni (ne fanbojevi) su čekali kako će kajman ispasti, pa kad je ispao običan krezubi aligatorić su brže bolje kupili najbolju single gpu karticu...

NumbDigger 20.12.2010. 12:38
EVGA je prva nestala, pa gigabyte, msi itd.

Ostalo nesto Galaxija, pa otisao i on, a PNY se zadnji rasprodao.

Ivan123 20.12.2010. 16:22
Takva situacija je bila i prije Caymana... Znam da je u HR bilo svega 5 kartica i da se nakon tjedan dana nakon sto su dosle u RH moralo narucivati i cekati 20-ak dana, a ni sada nije bolje stanje

kripton 22.12.2010. 02:17
Gainward navodno priprema najbrzu GTX 580 na trzistu.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/gainward...le-/10260.html

Jeiii, nova GS-ica:D

Da makar utrpaju na nju malo bolje hladjenje, tipa ovog novog 'Phantoma':D

Doink the Clown 22.12.2010. 08:15
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Autor kripton (Post 1806700)
Gainward navodno priprema najbrzu GTX 580 na trzistu.
Dok se ne pojavi Gigabyteova SOC edicija :)

red_bull 11.01.2011. 11:30
covjece kako dugo nisam vidio golden sample karticu.. godinama.
on topic: tko danas kupi gtx580 ja garantiram da netreba nikakve amd-iće sljedecih 2 god.. znam po gtxu 280 kojeg imam od izlaska i dan danas je jedan mocni gpu isplativiji od bilo kakvog multigpu rjesenja.

klem 11.01.2011. 12:19
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Autor red_bull (Post 1821736)
covjece kako dugo nisam vidio golden sample karticu.. godinama.
on topic: tko danas kupi gtx580 ja garantiram da netreba nikakve amd-iće sljedecih 2 god.. znam po gtxu 280 kojeg imam od izlaska i dan danas je jedan mocni gpu isplativiji od bilo kakvog multigpu rjesenja.
misliš da npr s hd4890 nije ista stvar :))). Potpuno je svejedno dal imaš grafu iz crvenog ili zelenog tabora...obje su dobre.

Doink the Clown 12.01.2011. 08:53
ASUS Readies Another Monster: GeForce GTX 580 DirectCu II
 
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After showing off a monstrous DirectCu II cooled Radeon HD 6970 at CES, ASUS released pictures of another card which probably couldn't make it to Vegas. The GeForce GTX 580 DirectCu II from ASUS is just as beastly as its Radeon cousin. It uses a completely in-house design, with custom PCB that uses a strong VRM; and a triple-slot cooler which uses copper heatpipes that make direct contact with the GPU. The PCB uses an 8-phase vGPU VRM, it draws power from two 8-pin power connectors. The power circuit is also completely localized, meaning that it draws absolutely zero power from the PCI-Express slot. The VRM makes use of high-grade components, including an NEC-made proadlizer to condition power for the GPU.

The DirectCu II cooler uses a large aluminum fin array to which heat is conveyed by five heatpipes that make direct contact with the GPU. Two 100 mm fans are in charge of ventilation. The rear panel consists of two DVI, and one each of DisplayPort and HDMI. The card is bound to have factory overclocked speeds, with room for more overclocking. The cooler, though large and with two fans, is tested by the company to be quieter than NVIDIA's reference design cooler. The GeForce GTX 580 is NVIDIA's flagship DirectX 11 GPU. It packs 512 CUDA cores, and connects to 1536 MB of memory over a 384-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface.

bluefluid 12.01.2011. 11:01
3way sli... NOT! ;)

Alfa_R 12.01.2011. 12:21
Bar ima backplate. :)

chief_wolfinjo 12.01.2011. 12:50
uskoro bu grafičke kartice kao jedan mini tower :lol2:

bluefluid 14.01.2011. 15:20
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 580 AMP! Edition 1536 MB

http://www.pohrani.com/f/b/OG/1ePYFvrU/card1.jpg

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ZOTAC's GeForce GTX 580 AMP! Edition does not bring many improvements to the table. The card is a complete implementation of NVIDIA's reference design with higher clocks. Its increased clock speed of 815 MHz, vs. 772 MHz on the reference design, can deliver a small performance improvement in our benchmarks - up around 3%. If you are willing to do some additional overclocking then you can expect a higher clock headroom on the AMP! Edition than on other reference design cards. According to ZOTAC, some special binning is performed at the factory where GPUs are picked that can handle the highest clocks. Compared to other reference designs, which max out at around 830 MHz, the 895 MHz on the AMP! Edition are a good improvement.
Whereas the GTX 480 AMP! Edition used a Zalman cooler, ZOTAC's GTX 580 AMP! comes only with the reference cooler. I talked to ZOTAC about the cooler and they mentioned that they were planning on using a different cooling solution but at the end it didn't work out for what were mostly political reasons beyond ZOTAC's influence.
Overall the GTX 580 AMP! Edition is a solid card but feels a bit too expensive with a $50 price premium over the normal clocked cards.

MSI Announces New N500GTX Twin Frozr II Series Graphics Cards

http://www.pohrani.com/f/2J/kG/4BuUg5uB/128a.jpg
http://www.pohrani.com/f/13/Ko/v5W8b2f/128b.jpg

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MSI's Exclusive Twin Frozr II Cooling Design
The MSI N500 Twin Frozr II series graphics cards feature the advanced Twin Frozr II Thermal Design. By utilizing its engineering expertise, MSI has created the ultimate Thermal Design that decreases operating temperatures by up to 20°C. The GPU spreader is covered with a large surface area heat sink with a copper base, ensuring the best possible thermal transfer surface. Surrounding components like Memory and PWM components are covered by a large unibody metal heat sink. Additionally, with MSI's SuperPipe heat pipe technology, excess heat is transferred quickly to a high density aluminum cooling fin assembly. The low-noise fan setup, which includes two temperature-controlled 8cm PWM fans, ensures excellent air flow to all parts of the Twin Frozr II Thermal Design while reducing sound levels by up to 8.4dB.
Izvor: techpowerup

Doink the Clown 21.01.2011. 12:46
Gainward Readies GeForce GTX 580 Phantom 3 GB Graphics Card
 
Uf, evo i GTX580 Fantomke, u ozbiljnom sam iskušenju :D
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Last month, Gainward introduced its GeForce GTX 570 Phantom, which won quite some appreciation among readers for its radical design. The company decided to extend it to the GeForce GTX 580, too, since it's based on the same GF110 silicon. The only major change is that 2 Gbit memory chips are used, yielding a total memory of 3072 MB (3 GB). The memory is spread across 12 2 Gbit memory chips across a 384-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface. Clock speeds stick to NVIDIA reference: 783/1566/4020 MHz (core/CUDA cores/memory effective). The GTX 580 packs 512 CUDA cores.

The cooler makes use of a black aluminum fin array, to which heat is fed by six heat pipes. Instead of fans on its obverse side blowing air onto the PCB, there are three fans on its reverse side, drawing air from the aluminum fin array, and onto the PCB. The result is a better-looking product. Display outputs include two DVI, and one each of HDMI and DisplayPort. Gainward will release its 3 GB GTX 580 Phantom graphics card soon, at a premium over the reference design.


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