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bluefluid 26.05.2011. 15:55
MSI R6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition Unlocking

Citiraj:
From MSI:
It is a common misconception that MSI's 6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition cannot be unlocked because it's not a reference design.

The fact is, despite sporting a fully custom PCB with Military Class II components and the epic Twin Frozr III cooler it WILL unlock to 1536 shaders.

That said, it will only unlock because MSI are so confident about the capabilities of the card that they wrote a custom BIOS themselves.

You must use MSI's custom BIOS and NOT any reference BIOS/bios editor otherwise you are at high risk of killing the card
Sluzbeni unlock od msi-ja... dakle sve se koristi u svrhu marketinga ;)

Doink the Clown 31.05.2011. 13:55
PowerColor to Challenge ASUS MARS II with Monstrous Dual-HD 6970 Graphics Card
 
Empire strikes back.

Citiraj:
While between the GeForce GTX 580 and Radeon HD 6970, the former is clearly the faster graphics card, the two share a disputed lead over each other in their dual-GPU avatars, GeForce GTX 590 and Radeon HD 6990, attributed to the HD 6990 sustaining clock speeds closer to those on its single-GPU implementation, and a better electrical design. While NVIDIA is fixing the electricals on a revised PCB design scheduled for release in the weeks to come, companies like ASUS are wasting no time in designing their own PCBs that can let the two NVIDIA GF110 GPUs sustain clock speeds identical to those on the single-GPU GTX 580. This would pose serious competition to the HD 6990. To ward that off, PowerColor is working on a new Radeon HD 6970 X2 graphics card, which has two AMD Cayman GPUs clocked on par with single-GPU HD 6970, and having the same overclocking headroom.

The new card from PowerColor is not just an overclocked HD 6990, but also has the overclocking headroom of the HD 6970. Further, unlike the HD 6990, it uses Lucid Hydra technology. The PLX-made, AMD-branded PCI-Express bridge chip is replaced by a LucidLogix-made bridge chip that gives each GPU PCI-Express 2.0 x16 bandwidth. Users can run the two GPUs in either AMD CrossFire (with Hydra features disabled), or enable Lucid Hydra Engine features, and let the two GPUs work in tandem with any other graphics card installed in the system, that uses GPUs of any make and generation.

The card draws power from three 8-pin PCI-E power connectors, power is conditioned by two sets of 6+2 phase VRM. Each GPU has 2 GB of GDDR5 memory across a 256-bit wide memory interface. The GPUs are said to have clock speeds equal to, or higher than those of the HD 6790, that's 880 MHz core, 5.50 GHz memory. The beast is cooled by a humongous triple-slot cooler that uses a 120 mm and a 140 mm fan, to cool dense aluminum fin array heatsinks. Display outputs are the same as HD 6970, that's two DVI, two mini-DP, and a HDMI.


http://www.techpowerup.com/146653/Po...hics-Card.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/146658/Po...hics-Card.html

bluefluid 31.05.2011. 16:13
powercoloru pod hitno treba nekakav dizajner... ovo su strahote!

Tomek32 31.05.2011. 20:53
A nije ovo jos za prodaju sigurno.

bluefluid 31.05.2011. 21:10
Nadam se, ali i inace sam takvog misljenja, uzas su.
Mozda nisu toliko losi sto se tice kvalitete komponentli, ali brate mili pa daj malo trendove treba pratiti.
Pa sto ce mi kricavo crveni pcb s nekom rugobom u mat crnom kucistu? Pa tko to jos koristi?
Danas dobar izgled hladnjaka i nekakva luda naljepnica imaju vise utjecaja u odluci za kupovinu nego sam gpu...

Tomek32 31.05.2011. 21:45
A vidi ovaj 14cm genericki vent desno :D.
Bit ce to dobro,ako bude za prodaju uopce.

Doink the Clown 01.06.2011. 10:08
Mislim da je ipak konačna verzija kartice ova u drugom linku:

thunderbird 01.06.2011. 10:20
A šta vas brine.... Dizajn grafičke kartice:roller:
Kao da ćeš ju objesiti na zid, a ne strpati u kućište:D

Tomek32 02.06.2011. 07:11
HD6870x2.
To bi moglo biti zanimljivo.

coconut 02.06.2011. 08:26
Postojala je i 4850x2 pa je skoro nitko nije kupovao, za razliku od 4870x2.

puma29x 03.06.2011. 01:44
procitao sam postove prije i ja imam EAH3870x2 1gb i jos sve sljaka iako vidim da ima potrebe za necim jacim naravno ... isao bi na neku 69xx e sad neznam procesor e 6850 3.0 dali je dovoljan ako neko ima prijedlog za neku kartu i savjet hvala unaprijed

coconut 03.06.2011. 08:53
Proc će biti dovoljan, ali teško da ćeš izvući max iz grafe s njim. Za to ti ipak treba više jezgri od 2 koliko sada imaš.

puma29x 05.06.2011. 15:12
ma i razmisljao sam se za zamjenu ovog proca za neki quad uz nadoplatu ali to kod nas naci nema sanse ... a koliko i vidim tesko i novi quad proc naci za kupiti ..hebena dilema kad se nema love dovoljno :):)

bluefluid 06.06.2011. 00:05
MSI R6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition OC review

http://www.pohrani.com/f/1N/Ip/DhkXn2b/6950tf301.jpg

Citiraj:
MSI shines with the overall design, the nice but still shy factory overclock, the custom designed PCB has serious quality components harbored on it. The 'Military class' component usage is not a joke, MSI follows the specs and guidelines of military grade hardware, so when you peek at the Ferrite core chokes, Hi-c Capacitors and solid capacitors, you'll know they'll last a long time. It's as simple as that.

The new Twin Frozr revision III cooler is much better than it's predecessor, the Twin Frozer revision II. In idle the card is very silent, under full load .. well you can hear it but that's it really. Meanwhile at its baseline clock frequency we maxed out at 63 Degrees C, which is absolutely a lovely temperature.
Izvor: guru3d

puma29x 07.06.2011. 13:05
ako neko zna di se ova gore kartica moze kod nas nabaviti ili kad ce biti tnx

Ivica121 13.06.2011. 21:42
Koju mi verziju ATI 6970 preporučate da kupim za svoj kompjuter?
MSI koja je malo skuplja ili Saphire!

MSI je malo OC verzija.

Spahire http://www.adm.hr/product_info.php?c...oducts_id=9520
MSI http://www.adm.hr/product_info.php?c...ducts_id=10064

coconut 14.06.2011. 07:02
Nijednu. Preskupe su za ono što nude. Radije uzmi neku 68xx.

Ivica121 14.06.2011. 10:55
Nude dosta, jesu preskupe ali skupilo bi se para. Dal da uzmem MSI onda ?

Ili pak možda neku GTX 560 ocanu?

jopis 14.06.2011. 10:59
Citiraj:
Autor Ivica121 (Post 1924667)
Koju mi verziju ATI 6970 preporučate da kupim za svoj kompjuter?
MSI koja je malo skuplja ili Saphire!

MSI je malo OC verzija.

Spahire http://www.adm.hr/product_info.php?c...oducts_id=9520
MSI http://www.adm.hr/product_info.php?c...ducts_id=10064
Msi bi trebala imat 3 godine gare, a sapphirka 2, i hlađenje je definitivno way to go za msi. Dakle msi, još samo da nije toliko skuplja....

newyxX 15.06.2011. 18:25
MSI HD 6970 ima PCI Express 2.1 16x .
koja je razlika između PCI Express 2.1 16x i PCI Express 2.0 16x ???
i dali može grafa sa PCI Express 2.1 16x na maticnu koja ima PCI Express 2.0 16x ???????? :D

nathan 15.06.2011. 20:15
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Ivica121 19.06.2011. 16:23
Gledam sad na XFX stranici i tamo piše da za xfx ATI 6970 2 gb treba 650 W ?

Evo pogledajte http://xfxforce.com/en-gb/products/G...ries/6970.aspx

Dok recimo za Saphireovu istu grafičku piše 550 W.

Jel stvarno treba za tu XFX ATI 6970 napajanje od 650w?

DiRT 19.06.2011. 16:49
A to ti ništa ne znači, nek napišu i 10 kW kad ti konfa ne troši više od 400 W. Pa moja konfa ne troši 300 W, ova tvoja je malo jača u potrošnji, al ne previše...

Ivica121 19.06.2011. 17:57
Hvala!

Doink the Clown 04.08.2011. 22:21
Sapphire Launches Radeon HD 6950 TOXIC Edition, Fastest HD 6950 Yet
 
Citiraj:
SAPPHIRE Technology – the world leading supplier of graphics solutions, mainboards and other PC products - has just announced the SAPPHIRE HD 6950 TOXIC Edition, the fastest production card in its class.

The SAPPHIRE HD 6950 TOXIC Edition ships with clock speeds of 880MHz for the core and 1300Mhz (5.2 Gb/sec effective) for the memory making it the fastest production HD 6950 on the market. This has been achieved by building the card on a high specification PCB with digital VRMs for excellent power regulation and 8 + 6 pin power connectors. It has a high performance cooler featuring a Vapor Chamber, blower fan and a new perforated backplate to increase airflow out of the system case.

Like the standard HD 6950, the SAPPHIRE HD 6950 TOXIC Edition boasts true DX 11 capability and the powerful configuration of 1408 stream processors and 88 texture processing units. A Dual BIOS feature allows enthusiasts to experiment with alternative BIOS profiles and settings. Performance can be further enhanced with SAPPHIRE TriXX – the company’s dedicated overclocking tool which allows memory and core clock speeds and voltages to be modified and monitored and is available free to download.

With its two DVI, one HDMI and two mini-DisplayPort outputs, the SAPPHIRE HD 6950 TOXIC Edition supports a wide range of monitor configurations, including AMD Eyefinity with up to four screens.

The SAPPHIRE HD 6950 TOXIC Edition has the latest Gen3 on-board hardware UVD (Unified Video decoder), considerably reducing CPU load and delivering smooth decoding of Blu-ray and other video content for both VC-1 and H.264 codecs, as well as Mpeg files. The UVD can decode two 1080p HD video streams simultaneously and display HD video in high quality with Windows Aero mode enabled. The card has HDMI 1.4a which also supports Stereoscopic 3D output.

The SAPPHIRE HD 6950 family is supported by AMD's DirectX 11 WHQL certified graphics driver which delivers support for all of the key DirectX 11 level features required for new gaming experiences and acceleration of the latest generation of browsers, transcoding and other high performance applications (AMD APP acceleration).

DiRT 05.08.2011. 01:42
To je to. :D Nadam se još jednoj Toxic grijalici ko mojoj 6850 koja je crkla sama od sebe. :)

skyman 05.08.2011. 11:31
Hm..ja imam HD6850 Toxic..max temp pod punim opterećenjem nije prelazila 73 stupnja..to je još opalo na 56 stupnjeva instalacijom Twin turba PRO...kupio je čim je izašla (bila par kn skuplja od obične) i radi besprijekorno cijelo vrijeme...nemoj generalizirat, nije dobro za zdravlje :)

Roby86 05.08.2011. 11:45
Pozdrav!

Ima li netko ovu 6950, to je nova verzija Sapphirke sa 1 GB, uz nju se dobiva u budleu Dirt 3, no zanima me čisto ako ima netko da kaže par riječi jel zadovoljan?

U par reviewa su rekli kako ima jako dobro riješeno hlađenje, do čak 10 C razlike u odnosu na konkurenciju.

http://www.links.hr/index.php?naziv=...kl=051.806.731

http://www.sapphiretech.com/presenta...n=&lid=1&leg=0

Hvala!

ProboY 06.08.2011. 19:19
pozdrav ekipo... dali ima ko iskustva s ati hd6990?

JVC HX-Z10 09.08.2011. 14:08
jel ko igra rift sa ovom karticom? meni su fps kaoticno slabi, ako sve pogasim dobijem 30ak fps u gradu, googlao sam ali nisam nista pametno pronasao, probao sam i sa radeon pro programcicem, ali bez razlike. ostale igre lete, ali rift mi fps zna past ispod 10 ako je malo vise ekipe, dok na otvorenom i bez ekipe oscilira i zna skociti i do 50ak fps. ali svejedno traljavo radi.
Jel ima tko kakav savjet kako bi se to dalo malo ubrzati? ili neke posebne drivere za preporuku?

lit 29.08.2011. 09:35
Izabrao sam Radeonku iz razloga što koliko vidim štedljivije su u potrošnji struje od nvidijinih. Zato razmišljam o kupnji 6950 i onda ju otključati na 6970.

E sad pitanje je da li možda uzeti 2 x 6850(otključat na 6870) za crossfirex ili je bolje jedna 6950 ?
što se tiče potrošnje struje kolika je razlika, a i što bi bolje vi preporučili ?

Znam da je prije godinu-dve... sapphire bio odlična srednja klasa, sada pretpostavljam da se preporuča MSI ? možda ASUS ?

coconut 29.08.2011. 11:06
1. jesi siguran da ćeš je moći otključati 6850 u 6870?
2. svjestan si činjenice da za CF trebaš i ploču koja to podržava i da takve ploče imaju veću cijenu?

Sapphire je još uvijek dobra. Preporuka je za MSI Twin Frozr zbog boljeg i tišeg hlađenja. Rezultate 6850 CF vs. 6950 možeš naći ovdje.

lit 29.08.2011. 12:12
1. Ne, uopće nisam siguran :) stvarno da ne bi mislio da zezam sad, zato bolje vi meni ovdje preporučite...
2. Ploča neće biti problem jer će konfiguracija biti high-end, kupuje se bolje da vrijedi malo duže...
MSI tiše hlađanje to je baš ono što i tražim, što manje buke to bolje.

A što se tiče cross-a, kakva su tvoja mišljenja ?

JuiceBox 29.08.2011. 12:39
Ako vec kupujes bolje i na duze kupi 6950 i mir.Lakse ju je kasnije prodati a i nemas zayebancije sa CFom

Strong 30.08.2011. 02:26
@lit

neke od rezultata 6950 vs 6850 @ cross su i ovdje ;)

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/293?vs=302

lit 30.08.2011. 22:27
sjetio sam se te stranice od prije, ali nema šanse da bi našao to da nisi ti poslao, puno hvala.
koliko vidim 6850 CF je bolji i od 6970..

Mr.Ex.President 30.08.2011. 22:36
Citiraj:
Autor lit (Post 1965906)
koliko vidim 6850 CF je bolji i od 6970..
A za koji monitor tolka snaga?
Imho, 6950 je BB, nove su cirka 1600 kn, polovne i manje (ako ti igra ta opcija).

lit 30.08.2011. 23:07
Citiraj:
Autor Mr.Ex.President (Post 1965922)
A za koji monitor tolka snaga?
Imho, 6950 je BB, nove su cirka 1600 kn, polovne i manje (ako ti igra ta opcija).
nova konfa, dakle 24'' će biti sigurno. ta cijena mi je sasvim ok, sve preko 2k kuna me ne privlači :nono: :D

Mr.Ex.President 30.08.2011. 23:13
Citiraj:
Autor lit (Post 1965981)
nova konfa, dakle 24'' će biti sigurno. ta cijena mi je sasvim ok, sve preko 2k kuna me ne privlači :nono: :D
Eto u mene 24" i 6850 koju sam imao mi je radila bez problema na svemu šta san vrtio tih 2, 3 mjeseca. Trenutna 6950 je nabavljena za sitnu nadoplatu i kupljena više radi te smješne nadoplate, nego radi potrebe. Pa ni na njoj još nisam naletio na igru koja ne bi radila kako treba na visokim postavkama. Tako da je za mene osobno 6850 CF za 24" too much, a ti vidi šta i kako, jer ih možeš nabavit taman za cca 2200 kn pa ako ti se uklapa u budžet...

Guls 31.08.2011. 09:13
i7 950 + 2x6970 = koliki će to biti bottleneck?

I da li se uopće ta perverzija isplati? Naime, već imam jednu 6970, a drugu mogu nabaviti za pristojne novce... Ili radije ostaviti ovako kako je?

Računam da npr dve godine neću u računalo ulagati ni lipe.

*naravno, onda bi se upgradealo i napajanje*


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