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Neo-ST 16.05.2023. 19:28
Nakon nenamjernog curenja podataka o korisnicima Ledger.com stranice, stiže još jedan fail, ali ovaj puta namjeran.

https://twitter.com/Ledger/status/1658458714771169282

https://twitter.com/Mudit__Gupta/sta...68265687556097

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurre...ing_to_happen/

The Exiled 16.05.2023. 19:47
Citiraj:
  • In a nutshell, it’s an ID-based key recovery service that backs up users’ seed phrases. To use the service, users must provide a passport or national identity card to confirm their identity.

  • While this service requires users to opt-in and pay a $9.99 monthly fee, some are concerned that this could even pose a security risk for those who don't opt in.
Jao, ovo su već malo žešće gluposti i to u rangu LastPass pizdarija gdje se isto tražilo/prisililo korisnike na plaćanje "sigurnosnog rješenja", samo da bi sve skupa kasnije u potpunosti hakirali.:hitthewal:

Neo-ST 16.05.2023. 20:42
Dalje...

https://twitter.com/roinevirta/statu...25016550416384

https://twitter.com/lebed2045/status...38551330365441

AndroiOs 18.05.2023. 18:10
Nema nista sigurnije od tog ledgera neki govorili
Sad ni to ne valja...taj kripto je prevara samo takva

The Exiled 18.05.2023. 20:36
Jebiga, kripto kao takav nije ništa kriv, ali kak to obično ide i u ovom slučaju se radi o hrpi mutnih likova koji koriste kripto kao priliku da zarade besplatne nofce i usput zajebu što više ljudi.:kafa:
Citiraj:
While answering queries about the firm's new wallet recovery service, Ledger Support sent a couple of tweets that likely did little to assuage its users' concerns, suggesting that it could make its customers' assets vulnerable in any way it wanted to, but has – thus far – not done so. "Technically speaking it is and always has been possible to write firmware that facilitates key extraction. You have always trusted Ledger not to deploy such firmware whether you knew it or not," Ledger said earlier on a now-deleted tweet. Crypto wallet maker Ledger dug itself into a deeper public relations hole on Wednesday when its support team said in a now-deleted tweet that "technically speaking it is and always has been possible to write firmware that facilitates key extraction," thus allowing the company to extract its users' keys. After erasing the tweets, Chief Technology Officer Charles Guillemet tweeted in an attempt to clarify the situation and downplay the initial tweets.
:hitthewal:

Night 19.05.2023. 12:33

To je neka stara verzija koda koliko vidim iz odgovora, u novoj verziji nema toga : https://github.com/LedgerHQ/app-boil...t_public_key.c


A ovo sa backupom recoverya je žešći idiotizam, napravili su cold wallet i onda nude uslugu koja potpuno ubija smisao cold walleta :D

Javorko 19.05.2023. 12:41
Znači li to da ne bismo trebali kupovati Ledger HW wallet?
Recimo onaj Stax izgleda prelijepo i čini mi se dobar.

Imam 10ak valuta, 300+ eura gore i čini mi se da je vrijeme za kripto wallet.

Neo-ST 20.05.2023. 09:54
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurre...ledger/jkpnvnl

Libertus 20.05.2023. 11:12
Sve jasno. Dobru si je Ledger kašu skuhao s tim recovery sustavom.
Prvo su se revno reklamirali da seed nikada ne može napustiti uređaj jer je unutar "secure element" koji je hardwareski dio. Sa novim sustavom su prvo priznali da su lagali cijelo vrijeme, a drugi im je promašaj što sve forsiraju da instaliraju taj firmware.
Da su ostavili mogućnost ažuriranja firmware-a bez tog recovery elementa, mislim da bi galama bila puno manja.

Neki zagovaraju poseban uređaj za recovery mogućnost, ali po meni su mogli samo ostaviti jedan firmware za one koji ne žele recovery i isti taj + recovery element za one koji se pretplate na recovery.

dzajko 20.05.2023. 12:45
Jeli update obavezan ili se moze normalno koristit i sa starim softwearom?

Libertus 20.05.2023. 18:08
Može se normalno koristiti.

jucca 24.05.2023. 16:04
Ekipa, sta se sa Ledgerom dogadja, dogodilo?
Vidim po Twitteru da ga ljudi "bacaju".

https://twitter.com/austin_bbytes/st...0ydP48JUw&s=19

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The Exiled 24.05.2023. 16:06
Evo, baci pogled na generalno sranje zvano Ledger.:)

jucca 24.05.2023. 18:14
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Autor The Exiled (Post 3677856)
Evo, baci pogled na generalno sranje zvano Ledger.:)
Krasni momci:)

Ja sam zd dvoumio izmedju Ledgera, i Trezor Model T, pa sam na kraju ipak Trezor uzeo.

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AndroiOs 24.05.2023. 18:45
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Autor jucca (Post 3677878)
Krasni momci:)

Ja sam zd dvoumio izmedju Ledgera, i Trezor Model T, pa sam na kraju ipak Trezor uzeo.

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Cool..drugo ime, isto sranje..

PR3DA70R 24.05.2023. 18:53

Neo-ST 24.05.2023. 22:43
Trezor

https://www.theblock.co/post/232085/...ardware-wallet

jucca 25.05.2023. 21:05
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Autor AndroiOs (Post 3677880)
Cool..drugo ime, isto sranje..
A bas.
Na kraju najbolje slozit komp samo za crypto.

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The Exiled 11.12.2023. 15:32
Friški nastavak Ledger priče ... :kafa:
Citiraj:
Citiraj:
Sleuths have discovered a vast data harvesting operation by the world’s largest hardware wallet manufacturer, Ledger. For reasons that are difficult to comprehend, Ledger Live software transmits information about clicks, page visits, redirects, crypto transactions, page scrolls, numbers of accounts, crypto asset names, session durations, hardware device types, and firmware versions to Ledger’s analytics provider. Ledger Live is the official software for interfacing with any Ledger hardware wallet. The vast majority of PC users download this software in order to set up their hardware wallet and sign transactions.

Although Ledger Live doesn’t send private keys or recovery phrases to segment.io, it sends plenty of information about a user that could subject users to extortion attacks. Any segment.io hacker, for example, could easily identify any user with substantial crypto holdings — including timestamps of crypto activities and other terrifyingly detailed information about assets. In summary, Ledger is tracking user data, possibly for its own UI/UX workers, or to profit from resale. Luckily, users have alternatives, including tracker-free forked versions of the software, or using the hardware wallet itself without installing Ledger Live software at all.
Izvor: Protos

Sn4k3 11.12.2023. 18:32
Ja sam nedavno uzeo Tangem (v2.0), nije ni on savršen al za moje potrebe odličan...

Psycho 14.12.2023. 18:58
zanimljiv dan na temu Ledgera.

https://twitter.com/Ledger/status/17...2q6lbLmK2CkNZA

kopija 14.12.2023. 19:21
karma is a bitch
koji diletanti svi po spisku na kraju Big Daddy morao intervenirati

dzajko 19.03.2024. 17:10
Iman problem s ledger nano S. Dugo vremena ga nisam koristio i danas ga idem prikljuciti vidim da se nista ne događa. Nisam siguran jeli samo lcd otišao ili kompletan uređaj. Dali je netko narucivao slucajno nekakv zamjenski lcd?

radi.neradi 19.03.2024. 17:45
provjerit cu kroz koji dan, imam viska neispravan ledger, ekran ispravan.

dzajko 19.03.2024. 18:15
Probao sam popraviti uz ledger live. Uopce mi ga ne želi prepoznati kada prikljucim usb. Probao držati tipku i onda ga priključiti međutim izbaci mi gresku 0x6984. Zatim ponovo spajao i odspajao "stick" pa mi je izbacio da mora odradit update, ali ni od toga pomoci. Sve ovo više putao probao, ali nikakvih pomaka nema.

EDIT: Mislim da je ledger "krepao". Probao na 3 razlicita racunala, više razlicitih kabela, ali niti jedno računalo ga ne prepozna kada se priključi niti sam ledger pokaziva ikakve znakove života. Tako da ce jedino rješenje očito biti narudzba novoga..

domy_os 20.03.2024. 19:57
Koliko je realno prodavati Ledger Nano S? Nisam ga koristio jako dugo, a nije da imam neke milijune da mi treba hardware wallet.

Night 21.03.2024. 08:58
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Autor domy_os (Post 3734703)
Koliko je realno prodavati Ledger Nano S? Nisam ga koristio jako dugo, a nije da imam neke milijune da mi treba hardware wallet.

Osobno ne bih nikad kupio polovni wallet jer nikad ne znaš je li manipulirano njime. I od Ledgera da dobijem otvorenu kutiju vratio bih je nazad.

dinos3 22.03.2024. 13:23
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Autor domy_os (Post 3734703)
Koliko je realno prodavati Ledger Nano S? Nisam ga koristio jako dugo, a nije da imam neke milijune da mi treba hardware wallet.
Ja sam svoj prodao na njuškalu http://forum.pcekspert.com/showthread.php?t=314838
Ali isto kao kolega @night nikad nebi kupovao rabljeni hardware wallet, očito ima ljudi koji bi

geronimo_2 22.03.2024. 13:32
ima ljudi koji kupuju i polovne cipele, vjerovali il ne, tak da... svaka roba ima svpg kupca.
ja isto nebi ni nakraj pameti kupio polovni wallet.

fler 22.03.2024. 14:55
Također, nema šanse.
Mislim ono, poanta je walleta sigurnost -
kupovina polovnog doslovno poništava sam koncept.

Ali gle, @domy_os,
stavi u prodaju pa vidi hoće se tko javiti.


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