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Overhaul 28.12.2010. 20:52
To ti jako ovisi od specifičnog setupa... Ja se sjećam da sam najnormalnije bez ikakvog namještanja i deinstaliranja drivera pri prelasku sa single hd2900XT na 2xhd3870 CF u tadašnjem intel x48 chipsetu sa q9450 dobijao plafone po benchmarkovima, sve radilo ko sat, pa kad sam kupio za taj komp nvidiu, prebacio sve na PhenomII platformu sa tadašnjim top AMD 790FX chipsetom, u nadi kako bi to trebalo bit još bolje jer jelte reklamirano kao "dragon" platforma, kad kajla. Nikako, ali nikako ponamještat da CF radi kako treba, kao i vama. Nekako je radilo sa nekom prastarom verzijom drivera (svaka novija verzija samo je pogoršavala stvari glede pregrijavanja, ili obratno, buke ventova u idleu) Od tog silnog mrdanja i kombinacija preštekavanja uspio sam samo pokvariti matičnu ploču. Sva sreća, par mjeseci prije nego je vemil, tadašnji generalni zastupnik za gigabyte riknuo, pa sam nakon mjesec i pol dobio neku rabljenu u zamjenu. Naravno, toliko nisam mogao čekat, pa sam se "usrećio" sa dfi matičnom.
Da se vratim otključavanju hd6950... to je njihova stara marketinška fora (sjećam se 9700/9600 budget serije, šta se sve nije dalo prebrikat da glumi... od fire gl do 9700 xt), dam se kladit da je i sad samo smišljena da se prošire glasine, slijedeća runda bit će lasercut. A i tako, gledam kod nas, pa preskup je i Hd6950, da bi se netko uopće odlučio za tu igru. Ono, za tih bezobraznih 2700kn da se ubost gotovo, ili za još dodanih sto kuna, gtx570 kojoj netreba mrdat nikakav bios :) Mislim, dokle je to došlo, da nvidija u hi endu nudi bolji frejm per buck od atija?

Josip07 28.12.2010. 21:01
Ima i povoljnije od 2700kn za HD 6950 stigle asus-ice 69xx u protis po boljoj cijeni.

http://www.protis.hr/products/detail...di2s2gd5/40229

http://www.protis.hr/products/detail...di2s2gd5/40228

A uskoro dolazi i gigabite po još ljepšoj cijeni.

http://217.14.221.177/StartEU.ashx?_...Cccrw6SWn3xHsG

http://217.14.221.177/StartEU.ashx?_...Cccrw6SWn3xHsG

HCS 28.12.2010. 21:36
Kad se stabilizira 6950 na 2200-2300 biti ce definitvno best buy, pogotovo kad se mogu bez problema otkljucat u 6970.

SRV 28.12.2010. 22:18
Cijena HD6950 kartica ce pasti tek kad izadje GTX560, jer ce im to biti konkurencija. Bit ce ih i ispod 2000kn, a HD6800 su ionako bezobrazno skupe.

Po mojim predvidjanjima, HD6850 idu na cca 1200kn, HD6870 na 1500, a HD6950 na cca 2000. :)

Astral 28.12.2010. 23:02
sta je bilo s onim prvotnim vijestima o mogucnoscu hd6850 unlockat na hd6870? to ipak nije moguce?

Doink the Clown 28.12.2010. 23:28
MSI Shows off R6970 and N580GTX Lightning Graphics Cards
 
Ja sam skužio jedino po naljepnicama na PCB-u koja je koja od ove dvije beštije :D

Citiraj:
MSI did a lot more than showing off its AMD Fusion "Brazos" Wind U270 notebook at today's press-meet in Taiwan. The company seems to have spilled its entire load for CES, just days ahead of it. Today's exposé included two new ultra-high end graphics cards under the company's Lightning series. The R6970 Lightning is based on AMD Radeon HD 6970, and the N580GTX Lightning, of course, on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580.

Both cards look nearly identical because their most peculiar part, the cooling assembly, is mostly the same. The Twin Frozr III from MSI combines slick looks with certain enhancements with the fan blade design (to improve noise to airflow ratio). Under the shroud is what looks to be a dense aluminum fin array to which heat is conveyed using several heat-pipes, including 8 mm thick ones. While the cooler more or less respects the 2-slot width, it increases the height of the cards by a good inch.

The PCBs of both the R6970 and N580GTX are surprisingly similar in component layout. The N580GTX uses a 16-phase VRM with power drawn from two 8-pin PCI-E power connectors, while the R6970 uses a beefier 18-phase VRM. Both cards seem to be making use of high-grade components such as high-C capacitors and proadlizers to condition power, there's a good chance that they're using MSI's solid-state chokes that don't whine on load.

The N580GTX Lightning features display connectivity that includes two DVI, and one each of HDMI and DisplayPort, while the R6970 Lightning uses an AMD standard loadout of two DVI, one HDMI, and two mini-DisplayPort. Both cards might feature factory-overclocked speeds with large overclocking headroom, including voltage control to help you out. More can be learned at CES. MSI's pre-preview is getting exciting so far.

http://www.techpowerup.com/137266/MS...ics-Cards.html

Squizl 29.12.2010. 00:06
Citiraj:
Autor Astral (Post 1811681)
sta je bilo s onim prvotnim vijestima o mogucnoscu hd6850 unlockat na hd6870? to ipak nije moguce?
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...ng/vidcard/159

EDIT: Kao što je Overhaul ispod napisao, krivo linkah. Ovo je za 6950 u 6970.

Overhaul 29.12.2010. 00:24
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Autor Squizl (Post 1811736)
Krivo linkaš. Čovjek je pitao za unlockanje hd6850, ne hd6950.

Doink the Clown 31.12.2010. 08:53
PowerColor Announces Water Cooling-Ready Radeon HD 6970 LCS Graphics Card
 
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TUL Corporation, a leading manufacturer of AMD graphics cards, announces the world’s first liquid cooling solution for the HD6970 series. The PowerColor Liquid Cooling Solution (LCS) HD6970 2GB GDDR5 is once again working with renowned cooling manufacturer EKwaterblocks to bring the ultimate cooling solution to the HD6970. The offering aims to provide extraordinary thermal performance to enhance overclocking ability while allowing optimum system stability.

The PowerColor LCS HD6970 has a full water block mounted on the card, fully covering the key components which can be dissipate the heat from the copper base design. This allows the reduction of GPU temperatures under 50°C even under full load. PowerColor packages a high-flow 3/8" and 1/2" fittings (barbs) to maximize water flow with captured o-rings to prevent leakage. Gamers can customize their own liquid cooling system using these two fittings.

“The coolest temperatures and the fastest performance is what we guarantee to add into the LCS HD6970 features,” said Ted Chen, CEO of TUL Corporation. "With all the key features come with this latest solution, we believe all these benefits can make it the best solution ever for hardcore gamers and benchmark ethusiasts.”

Compatible with all the latest features, the PowerColor LCS HD6970 has a factory overclocked setting at 925 MHz core and 1425 MHz memory, easily pushing the overclocking ability to maximize its performance. The card also comes equipped with Volterra’s digital power solution, maximizes its transforming efficiency and delivers the best output quality through its high frequency feature, enabling the most efficient way to boost up gaming experience.


DraŽ 31.12.2010. 09:12

Bar na ovoj verziji netrebaju ručno obrađivat onaj 6-pinski konektor:lol2:

Doink the Clown 01.01.2011. 12:06
AMD Revising Radeon HD 6900 Series PCB
 
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AMD is planning a revised Radeon HD 6900 series reference-design PCB. It is reported that the delays which short-supply of TI-made driver-MOSFETs caused have been tided over with, giving AMD the opportunity to redesign the PCB to make use of the more cost-effective yet high-performance VRM circuitry. AMD is reported to have used expensive Volterra-made digital PWM chippery in a last-ditch effort to release the Radeon HD 6900 series in time for the X'mas shopping season, after TI-made VRM components couldn't make it to foundry-partners in time (which caused the launch delay in November, 2010). The redesigned PCB with its new TI-made driver-MOSFETs (DrMOS) could also present an opportunity for AMD to patch the Radeon HD 6950, making stream processor unlocking using BIOS flash impossible, notes the source. This development surfaced after water-cooling major Swiftech announced that it delayed the launch of its Radeon HD 6900 series full-coverage water block because AMD is revising its PCB design.
http://i.tpucdn.com/img/10-12-31/167a_thm.png

http://www.techpowerup.com/137448/AM...eries-PCB.html

Valjda će se to i pozitivno odraziti na cijene sa stajališta potrošača.

SRV 01.01.2011. 12:30
Ovo nije nikako dobro, iako ce performanse ostati iste, nece biti vise ista potrosnja, a mozda niti zagrijavanje i buka. Jednostavno vise nije taj proizvod imho. Sad ce nam trebat nove recenzije. :D

Losa vijest je sto sigurno vise nece biti otkljucavanja u HD6970. :(

Antiša 01.01.2011. 20:18
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Autor SRV (Post 1814241)
Ovo nije nikako dobro, iako ce performanse ostati iste, nece biti vise ista potrosnja, a mozda niti zagrijavanje i buka. Jednostavno vise nije taj proizvod imho. Sad ce nam trebat nove recenzije. :D

Losa vijest je sto sigurno vise nece biti otkljucavanja u HD6970. :(
Stara rojsova "Tko je jamio jamio":care:

Boki95 03.01.2011. 00:59
Pozdrav..imam pitanje
Zelio bih preci s HD5770 1GB na HD6850 1GB
Sada dali cu osjetit ikakvu razliku??...spominje se da je HD6850 znatno slabija od skuplje HD5850!?
Dali mi se vise isplati za 300kn manje uzeti HD5830?

DraŽ 03.01.2011. 01:08
Citiraj:
Autor Boki95 (Post 1815335)
Pozdrav..imam pitanje
Zelio bih preci s HD5770 1GB na HD6850 1GB
Sada dali cu osjetit ikakvu razliku??...spominje se da je HD6850 znatno slabija od skuplje HD5850!?
Dali mi se vise isplati za 300kn manje uzeti HD5830?
Ma razlika između HD6850 i 5850 ti je nikakva, nemožeš razliku niti primjetit.

5830 nije baš nešto bolje je HD6850 uzet, em što manje troše, em su jače, em su tiše i hladnije i imaju osjetno bolje performanse u teselaciji.

HCS 03.01.2011. 01:11
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Autor Boki95 (Post 1815335)
Pozdrav..imam pitanje
Zelio bih preci s HD5770 1GB na HD6850 1GB
Sada dali cu osjetit ikakvu razliku??...spominje se da je HD6850 znatno slabija od skuplje HD5850!?
Dali mi se vise isplati za 300kn manje uzeti HD5830?
Bolje 5850, u DX9/10 je stvarno jaca, u DX11 sto je jos uvijek jako malo igrica su tu negdje

Antiša 03.01.2011. 12:43
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Autor DraŽ (Post 1815340)
Ma razlika između HD6850 i 5850 ti je nikakva, nemožeš razliku niti primjetit.

5830 nije baš nešto bolje je HD6850 uzet, em što manje troše, em su jače, em su tiše i hladnije i imaju osjetno bolje performanse u teselaciji.
Onda nema ni razlike između GTX 460 1GB I HD 5850, jer je po svim reviewima 6850 potpuno identična kartica po perfomansama kao i GTX 460 1GB.

Perfomanse u teselacij jesu bolje al ne mnogo - Što 5850 nebude mogla vrtiti nece ni 6850, možda trun bolje 2-3 FPS, al i dalje preslabo. Jedino je u sintetičkim testovima nešto trun bolja, teselacija u igrama (Metro 2033, Lost Planet 2, DiRT 2) daju do znanja da je tek zanemarivo, ili nimalo brža u odnosu na 5850.

DraŽ 03.01.2011. 12:46
Pa to ti je sve tu unutar par fps-a, šta god uzeo nemoš pogriješit.

Jedino ona GTX460 768MB/192-bit je ipak osjetno slabija.

Antiša 03.01.2011. 13:09
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Autor DraŽ (Post 1815570)
Pa to ti je sve tu unutar par fps-a, šta god uzeo nemoš pogriješit.

Jedino ona GTX460 768MB/192-bit je ipak osjetno slabija.
Hm....

Zapravo, jedino gdje je 768MB verziaj bitno sporija je Crysis i to na Full HD, jer tek očigledno u njemu do izrazaja dolazi manja propusnost i manji kapacitet VRAM-a, kao i nešto manji broj ROP jedinica koje su isto tako vazne za visoke rezolucije.

U svemu ostalome 1GB i 768MB verzija su unutar 2-3 FPS, jedino UT3 koji je igriv i sa jadnom GTS 450 i niže, a kamoli sa GTX 460.

Doink the Clown 03.01.2011. 15:29
Citiraj:
Autor Boki95 (Post 1815335)
Pozdrav..imam pitanje
Zelio bih preci s HD5770 1GB na HD6850 1GB
Sada dali cu osjetit ikakvu razliku??...spominje se da je HD6850 znatno slabija od skuplje HD5850!?
Dali mi se vise isplati za 300kn manje uzeti HD5830?
Osobito na 19'' monitoru takav upgrade ti neće doći do nikakvog izražaja. Bolje štedi pare za veću dijagonalu.

Nickfast 03.01.2011. 17:13
Ima u protisu za 2280 kn grafu vtx3d6950.
Uzeo bih je ali svi govore kako grafa nije neke kvalitete.
Sad me zanima dal se isplati dati preko 300kn za istu grafu samo
drugog proizvodaca. Ako vam sto znaci nemislim clockati.

fran123456 03.01.2011. 17:15
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Autor Nickfast (Post 1815845)
Ima u protisu za 2280 kn grafu vtx3d6950.
Uzeo bih je ali svi govore kako grafa nije neke kvalitete.
Sad me zanima dal se isplati dati preko 300kn za istu grafu samo
drugog proizvodaca. Ako vam sto znaci nemislim clockati.
Nema razloga da ne kupiš VTXicu.

Nickfast 03.01.2011. 17:25
Onda cu ju vjerojatno uzeti. Samo koje napajanje bi bilo dovoljno. Dal bi seasonic 520w bio dovoljan za nju, x6 1055, 4gb ram, hard raid 500gb i dvd prlica i jos par prijenosnih ukopcanih.
Za maticnu kako ne mislim oc, mislim uzeti asrock 770 jer necu stavljati cross. Sto mislite dal je bolje da uzmem neku bolju grafu.

Bono 03.01.2011. 18:05
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Autor Nickfast (Post 1815853)
Onda cu ju vjerojatno uzeti. Samo koje napajanje bi bilo dovoljno. Dal bi seasonic 520w bio dovoljan za nju, x6 1055, 4gb ram, hard raid 500gb i dvd prlica i jos par prijenosnih ukopcanih.
Za maticnu kako ne mislim oc, mislim uzeti asrock 770 jer necu stavljati cross. Sto mislite dal je bolje da uzmem neku bolju grafu.
Za to ti je i 450W vise nego dovoljno.

Nickfast 03.01.2011. 18:09
Uzet su onda tog seasonica, od viska glava ne boli :)

bluefluid 24.01.2011. 10:02
Radeon HD 6990 ''Antilles'' Graphics Card Pictured

http://www.pohrani.com/f/20/vw/4MxiWDw2/175b.jpg

Citiraj:
AMD's Rick Bergman displayed the company's newest graphics card that seeks to extend the performance leadership currently held by Radeon HD 5970. The dual-GPU AMD Radeon HD 6990, codenamed "Antilles", makes use of two 40 nm "Cayman" GPU, which powers the single-GPU HD 6950 and HD 6970. The core configuration of Cayman in Antilles is not known. The card itself keeps up with the product styling that all Radeon HD 6000 series carry, it's about as long as the HD 5970.

This time, AMD is toying with a revolutionary new cooler design that makes use of a cylindrical blower (like ones used in air-curtains, on a much smaller scale) to draw air from the rear portion of the cooler, and circulate through the complex vapor-chamber enhanced heatsink inside. In other words, the card lacks a fan intake hole where it's typically located, but the rear portion serves that purpose. Power is drawn in from two 8-pin PCI-E power connectors. AMD is expected to release the new enthusiast graphics card in this quarter.
Izvor: techpowerup

prt scr 24.01.2011. 21:43
just do not fuck with this cooling:fiju:
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Autor bluefluid (Post 1831984)

NinX 26.01.2011. 16:35
HD 6990:
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2...0126h83amd.jpg
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/26/a...looking-large/

Boki95 26.01.2011. 16:53
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Autor Doink the Clown (Post 1815752)
Osobito na 19'' monitoru takav upgrade ti neće doći do nikakvog izražaja. Bolje štedi pare za veću dijagonalu.
Zaboravio sam naglasit da kupujem i monitor 22" FullHD tako da ce mi HD5770 biti preslaba

Bullet1 27.01.2011. 17:02
ATI Lowers Prices on Performance-Mainstream Graphics Cards.


Citiraj:
Graphics business unit of Advanced Micro Devices - ATI - this week decreased pricing of certain performance-mainstream graphics cards and also introduced a new offering in order to better compete against Nvidia Corp.'s GeForce GTX 560 Ti graphics solution.

Starting from this week, select partners of AMD will sell the retail Radeon HD 6950 2GB graphics card for $289 and light-retail flavours of Radeon HD 6950 2GB for $269, or even lower with mail-in-rebate. The official recommended price of the Radeon HD 6950 2GB was $299 when launched in December, 2010. AMD's partners also begin to sell Radeon HD 6950 graphics boards with 1GB GDDR5 memory onboard for $259. In addition, the Radeon HD 6970 1GB for $219, down from $239.

AMD hopes that its Radeon HD 6950 1GB for $259 and Radeon HD 6870 1GB for $219 will be able to offer decent alternatives for Nvidia's GeForce GTX 560 Ti ($249) from price/performance points of view.

AMD Radeon HD 6850 graphics card is based on Cayman graphics chip with 1408 stream processing units with VLIW4 architecture, 88 texture units, 32 render back ends, 800MHz clock-speed and 256-bit memory bus. The chip has maximum compute performance of 2.25TFLOP/s SP and 0.563TFLOP/s DP. The card can connect up to five displays at once (using 2x DVI, 2x mDP + HDMI connectors). The Radeon HD 6870 sports 1120 compute elements with VLIW 5 architect, 56 texture units, 32 render back ends, 900MHz frequency and 256-bit memory bus.

It is interesting to note that the Cayman chip which powers ATI Radeon HD 6900-series graphics cards has die size of 389mm2 and is more expensive to manufacture than Nvidia's GF114, which powers GeForce GTX 560 Ti, that is around 370mm2 large. As a result, AMD's graphics product group does not have a lot of opportunities to further reduce the pricing of the Radeon HD 6950.
izvor: xbit


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