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Citiraj:

[Forwarded from Crypto VIP Signal™]
Calculations for UST and LUNA #copied

- UST has a circulating supply of 12.12B
- It has a market cap of $7.4B
- To restore peg 12.12B - 7.4B = 4.72B of UST needs to be burned
- Terra validators have overwhelmingly agreed that this is what must be done, UST must be burned and peg must be restored
- To burn UST (and restore peg), you need to mint new LUNA
- To burn 1 UST you need to mint $1.00 worth of LUNA
- Let's do some simple math
- Say we can burn all the excess UST all at once right now, and restore peg
- To burn this 4.7B of UST we would need to mint $4.7B worth of LUNA
- At the current price of LUNA ($0.03), this means we would have to mint ~156B LUNA
- In this scenario, the circulating supply of LUNA would increase from 3.5B to ~160B (increase 45x)
- The price of LUNA will decrease to ~$0.0006
- Now you could in theory begin to slowly burn down that 160B circulating supply of LUNA (does this sound impossible and like a terrible investment? IT SHOULD SOUND IMPOSSIBLE AND LIKE A TERRIBLE INVESTMENT)
- The scenario described above is a made up fantasy and is not possible
- What's really going to happen is actually infinitely worse
- First problem: You can't burn all 4.7B UST at once because you can't mint 156B LUNA at once
- There is a limit on how much LUNA can be minted in one day
- Right now, they are voting to increase the limit
- This leads us to problem #2
- Second problem: As you mint LUNA, the price of LUNA goes down (LUNA is diluted), which means to burn more UST, you need to mint even more LUNA, until you descend into a vicious feedback loop of all out LUNA minting madness
- This is referred to by validators and people who understand the protocol as the "death spiral"
- Right now you can burn $1B UST by minting 33B LUNA
- The circulating supply of LUNA goes from 3.5B to 38.5B
- The price of LUNA is now 0.0027
- You then burn your next $1B UST by minting 1,000,000,000/0.0027 = 370B LUNA
- You burned your first $1B UST by minting 33B LUNA. The next $1B UST by minting 370B LUNA
- The next $1B UST would take trillions and trillions of LUNA
- I used $1B chunks just as an example
- Obviously the size of the burns would be much smaller as it depends on UST holders' bags
- The point is, LUNA can't recover unless they just decide to fundamentally change how the protocol works, which would result in Do Kwan and everybody else on the project being instantly indicted for fraud

Citiraj:

Autor jucca (Post 3600196)

Hehe posteno 👍😁

Salu na stranu, ali ovo je uzas. Bas citam na FB i Twitteru da su se neki, nazalost, ubili 😟https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...de1de61c73.jpg

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Da, žalosno. Ljudi su podlegli hypu i obilnim kamatama i upucali ozbiljne novce u LUNA i UST. Gledam prije 5-6 sati Binance app, a ono LUNA -99,76% u zadnja 24 sata... katastrofa.

Lagano izmišljaju toplu vodu u nadi da odgode neizbježno.

Citiraj:

Terraform restarts Blockchain behind UST Stablecoin, Luna:kafa:

Citiraj:

Terraform Labs restarted the Terra blockchain following a software update to help avoid attacks against the network in the wake of the collapse of its algorithmic stablecoin and the related Luna token that had roiled cryptocurrency markets. The fix is designed to help avoid so-called governance attacks against its protocol -- a way of manipulating the fundamentals of a given blockchain by acquiring enough tokens to force a majority vote. The halt meant that no transactions occurred on Terra’s blockchain while the system was shut down, forcing the price of its two tokens to stop moving.

Iskreno, baš mi je drago da se ovo dogodilo da se opet malo ljudi stresu ko 2018.-te :)

Sve je isto, samo samo je bloodthorn MIA.

Idemo dalje .
Ostalo mi 120k LUNE (kupljene po 0,001) :D:D .

Što je izlistano svagdje?
Vidim da nema više na Binance LUNA parova.

Ima na Binance. Luna/BUSD.

Da vidio sam poslije da su je ponovno uključili u trgovanje.

😁😁😁https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...cb51971250.jpg

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"Netko" je dan ranije kupio 900 kom. po 1,21 i prodao ih po 4,76 :roller:

Jest. Istina. Bilo je par lijepih wickova. Kolega je isto lijepo uboo.
Bravo 👍
Ja se nisam htio kockati, al' trebao sam 😁

Edit:

Oprez:

https://twitter.com/v0paNFT/status/1...C6nu3DeFg&s=19

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Šta kaže Luna/USD...
🙈😅

Citiraj:

Autor cako (Post 3600447)

"Netko" je dan ranije kupio 900 kom. po 1,21 i prodao ih po 4,76 :roller:

Na svakog sretnika dolaze desetci koji su izgubili zivotne ustedjevine i zovu hotline za psiholosku pomoc. Zivoti unisteni uslijed online kockanja.

Lijep ubod, ali treba osvijetliti i drugu stranu medalje.

kupio 1300000 lune na 0.000050 za sada jos nisam prodao.. moze jos gore da ide a i ovako je super.... sad je na 0.00040
a kolega kupio za 1000$ na 25$.. pukao ko fosna...

Citiraj:

Autor Bradobradi (Post 3600563)

kupio 1300000 lune na 0.000050 za sada jos nisam prodao.. moze jos gore da ide a i ovako je super.... sad je na 0.00040
a kolega kupio za 1000$ na 25$.. pukao ko fosna...

Ako uspiješ pribacit na Bittrex nećeš moći spavati :D:D . Pogledaj cijenu na Bittrex-u

https://www.fxempire.com/news/articl...bsence-1001002

‘The Guilt is Unbearable’: UST-Luna Investors discuss the 99.99% Crypto Crash:kafa:

Citiraj:

It took less than a week for the third largest stablecoin and its ecosystem to become virtually worthless, wiping out countless traders' savings. The cryptocurrency market is in the middle of a widespread crash, causing investors serious financial pain with no clear way out. The most dramatic fall yet has been the collapse of the $30 billion Terra ecosystem: its token Luna, its algorithmic stablecoin TerraUSD (UST)—which is supposed to remain pegged 1:1 to the dollar—and associated lending protocol Anchor. The implosion has caused an unimaginable amount of pain for would-be investors and has exacerbated an ongoing sell-off across crypto markets more generally. UST is currently trading at $0.15, and Luna has fallen from over $100 in April to $0.0001 today, effectively “going to zero,” in crypto-speak. Luna’s most dramatic fall has happened in the last week, with the token falling 99.99 percent from its $80 price a week ago. The price of Anchor’s token also fell dramatically, from $2 to $0.09.

The founder of the South Korea-based firm behind Terra-Luna, Terraform Labs, is Do Kwon, a normally prodigiously loud Twitter poster who regularly dismissed critics as “poor” in replies and said in one interview that “95 percent [of coins] are going to die, but there's also entertainment in watching companies die too.” Now, he hasn’t posted on Twitter in days and seems to have requested emergency personal protection from police. Terra isn’t just another random crypto project: It was propped up by venture capitalists who pumped $150 million into the ecosystem last year, potentially giving investors confidence in the project. Investors included major players such as Pantera Capital, Arrington Capital, Coinbase Ventures, and Galaxy Digital. Now, amid the collapse, most people have found themselves drowning in a bloodbath, with some investors saying they have lost their life savings, taking to online forums to share their despair or suicidal ideation.

For the most part, it seems unlikely that much of anything will be done for those wiped out because of the collapse of the third-largest stablecoin. So far, all talk of bailouts has largely been limited to just that: talk. Enthusiasts who were told that UST and Luna were the future are in the hole. Trading of the coins has been halted on multiple exchanges, meaning what little some had left is likely inaccessible for the foreseeable future. Regular people caught up in Terra-Luna are unlikely to see a bailout. Instead, things will move on as they always have: The backers and financiers will do what they can, while the regular people who invested will suffer what they must and scrabble for some kind of fix.

Izvor: VICE/Motherboard

Citiraj:

Autor cako (Post 3600564)

Ako uspiješ pribacit na Bittrex nećeš moći spavati :D:D . Pogledaj cijenu na Bittrex-u

https://www.fxempire.com/news/articl...bsence-1001002

iz koje zemlje se moze registrovati?

Nisam vidio da li imaju neka ograničenja.

Ali ne možeš pribacit LUNU, blokirali su deposite .

Ono sto me u cijeloj Luna prici zanima, gdje su otisli novci?

Mali trgovci su ubacili FIAT u sustav i svi ostali opeceni. Gdje je nestao novac?

Citiraj:

Autor cako (Post 3600573)

Nisam vidio da li imaju neka ograničenja.

Ali ne možeš pribacit LUNU, blokirali su deposite .

binance je dozvolio isplate...
sta li je na bittrex vidjet cu
isao sam preko VPN i uspjeo se registrovati odnosnodosao do dokumenata inema BiH ali ima hrvatska i srbija... pa sad ganjam nekog da mi to zavrsi...
--------------EDIT ------------------
registrovao se ali je, kao sto neko rece deposit obustavljen za sada... ali svejedno ako proradi... oho... pricate sa milionerom :)

Citiraj:

Autor Neo-ST (Post 3600489)

Šta kaže Luna/USD...
🙈😅

Citiraj:

Binance: LUNA & UST Trading Resumed. Please understand the risks involved and trade with caution

Vidim da se sad i na crypto.com može kupiti

Pratite li LUNU još uvijek?
Kako stvari stoje , sutra bi se ,nakon glasanja, moglo znati kakav je plan oporavka .
Uglavnom bit će zanimljivo u narednim danima i mjesecima .

Citiraj:

One proposal on the Luna Research Forums that has gained traction suggested a 3% burn tax on transactions. “Based on our volume, which is around $3 billion at the moment, if we implemented only 3% burn tax on each buy and sell transaction, we could burn around 300,000,000,000 LUNA at the time of writing this proposal

Citiraj:

By burning the Luna, holders hope this will increase the scarcity of their coins, pushing the price back towards $1. However, with the supply increasing 1700% in a few days, a major burn would be needed to restore this price

Citiraj:

Autor cako (Post 3601119)

Pratite li LUNU još uvijek?
Kako stvari stoje , sutra bi se ,nakon glasanja, moglo znati kakav je plan oporavka .
Uglavnom bit će zanimljivo u narednim danima i mjesecima .

92% glasača je protiv forka.

https://agora.terra.money/t/revival-...ary-vote/20425
klik na show results.

Citiraj:

The Ponzinomics were just too obvious: When you pay money for nothing, and stash your nothing in a protocol with the expectation that it will give you a 20 percent yield—all you end up with is 20 percent of nothing.

People would buy UST and stash it in Anchor, a piece of software where one could park one’s coins, hoping to see it grow like a magic money tree over time.

Dakle, muljaža bila i ostala, a ovi sad nastoje oživjeti nešto čega više nema, u nadi da se još netko upeca u praznim obećanjima o bogatstvu kroz besplatne nofce.:chears:

Na kraju dana bude i ova priča dobila svoj dokumentarac i tak u krug do sljedeće kripto prijevare kojih već sad ima skoro, pa isključivo.