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Yoman 18.06.2021. 20:31

Možda sam ja nešto krivo povezao al ako već postoji Zen3 a napravit će poboljšanu varaijantu koja će se zvati Zen3+ ili kako već, nije li to refresh Zen3-ojke?

picajzla0707 18.06.2021. 20:47

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Autor MadBoY (Post 3526461)
Mogli su ali bi cijena porasla sigurno 50-100 dolara. Nije njima problem ni zaljepiti 4GB HBM-a ali to nitko ne bi kupio jer bi bilo preskupo.

Kak si došao na 50-100 usd više cijene?

MadBoY 18.06.2021. 21:10

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Autor Yoman (Post 3526699)
Možda sam ja nešto krivo povezao al ako već postoji Zen3 a napravit će poboljšanu varaijantu koja će se zvati Zen3+ ili kako već, nije li to refresh Zen3-ojke?

Ni u jednom trenu AMD nije spomenuo Zen 3+ ili refresh. Samo su rekli da će na Zen 3 dodati 3D V-Cache i to samo za high-end modele, znači 12 i 16 jezgrene. Zen 3+ postoji samo u glasinama.
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Autor picajzla0707 (Post 3526706)
Kak si došao na 50-100 usd više cijene?

Zen3 chiplet je oko 84 mm2, 128 MB Infinity Cachea je oko ~130 mm2. 32 MB Infinity Cachea bi bilo skoro pola Zen 3 chipleta. Pa sad računaj koliko bi AMD to naplatio :).

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On that note, let's talk about the size of the infinity Cache. In short, based on currently available data it would appear that AMD has dedicated a surprisingly large portion of their transistor budget to it. Doing some quick paper napkin math and assuming AMD is using standard 6T SRAM, Navi 21’s Infinity Cache would be at least 6 billion transistors in size, which is a significant number of transistors even on TSMC’s 7nm process (for reference, the entirety of Navi 10 is 10.3B transistors). In practice I suspect AMD has some optimizations in place to minimize the number of transistors used and space occupied, but regardless, the amount of die space they have to be devoting to the Infinity Cache is significant. So this is a major architectural trade-off for the company.
Izvor.

Yoman 18.06.2021. 21:19

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Autor MadBoY (Post 3526711)
Ni u jednom trenu AMD nije spomenuo Zen 3+ ili refresh. Samo su rekli da će na Zen 3 dodati 3D V-Cache i to samo za high-end modele, znači 12 i 16 jezgrene. Zen 3+ postoji samo u glasinama.


Za mene je to refresh, isto kao što su 3070ti i 3080ti refresh RTX3000 serije. Kako god tko to zvao poanta je da izlaze novi/jači procesori na Zen3 arhitekturi.
Mislio sam da je to sada prvi put službeno objavljeno, al vidim da spominješ da je već bilo na Computexu. Meni je bio prvi glas pa eto.

picajzla0707 18.06.2021. 21:20

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Autor MadBoY (Post 3526711)
Ni u jednom trenu AMD nije spomenuo Zen 3+ ili refresh. Samo su rekli da će na Zen 3 dodati 3D V-Cache i to samo za high-end modele, znači 12 i 16 jezgrene. Zen 3+ postoji samo u glasinama.


Zen3 chiplet je oko 84 mm2, 128 MB Infinity Cachea je oko ~130 mm2. 32 MB Infinity Cachea bi bilo skoro pola Zen 3 chipleta. Pa sad računaj koliko bi AMD to naplatio :).


Izvor.

Ne znam zašto bi stavljali 128mb infinity keša u low end navi igpu, ne pričamo o 6800xt da joj treba toliko. Infinity keš je uveden, između ostalog, da se ne mora koristiti skupa sabirnica, dakle riječ je o cost effective rješenju, koje može na low end igpu grafi biti i 32mb
Ako se ne varam i navi je jeftinija u proizvodnji od vege, dodat 32mb i.keša i eto rješenja, pa nek je malo i skuplji. Bar bi konačno imali pošteni igpu, to bi puno njih platili malo više

The Exiled 18.06.2021. 21:35

Bolji iGPU baziran na RDNA 2 arhitekturi čuvaju za sljedeću generaciju APU modela, koja će na tržištu biti paralelno s novim Zen 4 modelima.

Skok s Vega na RDNA 2 iGPU rješenja bude sam po sebi popriličan, a ako još k tome slože i nekolicinu MB-a Infinity Cachea - to je to.:chears:

picajzla0707 18.06.2021. 21:45

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Autor The Exiled (Post 3526720)
Bolji iGPU baziran na RDNA 2 arhitekturi čuvaju za sljedeću generaciju APU modela, koja će na tržištu biti paralelno s novim Zen 4 modelima.

Skok s Vega na RDNA 2 iGPU rješenja bude sam po sebi popriličan, a ako još k tome slože i nekolicinu MB-a Infinity Cachea - to je to.:chears:

E to što oni 'čuvaju' rdna igpu za sljedeću generaciju apu meni i smeta. Ne vjerujem da bi samo infinity keš digao cijenu baš toliko, da dođe do cijene 5600x s grafom koja bi konačno bila upotrebljiva, mislim da bi ga mnogi odabrali u aktualnoj situaciji.
Ali ok, nema i gotovo, možemo se nadat da će bar neki sljedeći apu konačno grafičke perfomanse dići na vušu razinu. Imaju rdna2 da konačno zamijeni prastaru vegu, imaju infinity keš za problem propusnosti, samo to treba spojiti u konačni proizvod.

The Exiled 18.06.2021. 21:52

Da, ali s ovim kaj su dosad koristili nisu imali potrebu za nečim boljim, mada su mogli komotno složiti kaj god ih volja, jer Intel čak i s najboljim Rocket i Tiger Lake modelima ima performanse tek u rangu.

Svi zajedno smo svjedoci da AMD usitinu može složiti čuda tehnike, neovisno o Intelu i popratnoj konkurenciji, a RDNA 2 iGPU je za novu APU generaciju već nekoliko puta najavljen kroz procurene informacije i roadmap serije.

Eladio 18.06.2021. 21:52

+1
..ma mogli su oni taj igpu poboljšati i sad, pa i prije, da su htjeli ili trebali .. ocito zanemarena stavka u planovima iz tko zna kojih razloga

The Exiled 18.06.2021. 22:00

Nije bilo potrebe, a prema riječima Jima Kellera, ovi u Intelu su ionak lovili vlastite repove.:) iGPU će doći na svoje, a AMD u međuvremenu ide dalje na svim područjima, dok Intel još uvijek pokušava naći čarobnu kombinaciju.
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Couple of years before I joined, they started what's called the SoC IP view of building chips, versus Intel's historic monolithic view. That to be honest wasn't going well, because they took the monolithic chips, they took the great client and server parts, and simply broke it into pieces. You can't just break it into pieces - you have to actually rebuild those pieces and some of the methodology goes with it.

MadBoY 18.06.2021. 22:46

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Autor picajzla0707 (Post 3526714)
Ne znam zašto bi stavljali 128mb infinity keša u low end navi igpu, ne pričamo o 6800xt da joj treba toliko. Infinity keš je uveden, između ostalog, da se ne mora koristiti skupa sabirnica, dakle riječ je o cost effective rješenju, koje može na low end igpu grafi biti i 32mb
Ako se ne varam i navi je jeftinija u proizvodnji od vege, dodat 32mb i.keša i eto rješenja, pa nek je malo i skuplji. Bar bi konačno imali pošteni igpu, to bi puno njih platili malo više

Zato sam i napisao da je 32 MB Infinity Cachea skoro pola Zen 3 chipleta. A budući da su skresali L3 na APU-ima, nekako mi je teško za povjerovati da bi stavili 32 MB Infinity Cachea na APU. Prije će to biti 16 MB i to kad pređu na 5 nm.

picajzla0707 19.06.2021. 00:30

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Autor The Exiled (Post 3526724)
Da, ali s ovim kaj su dosad koristili nisu imali potrebu za nečim boljim, mada su mogli komotno složiti kaj god ih volja, jer Intel čak i s najboljim Rocket i Tiger Lake modelima ima performanse tek u rangu.

Svi zajedno smo svjedoci da AMD usitinu može složiti čuda tehnike, neovisno o Intelu i popratnoj konkurenciji, a RDNA 2 iGPU je za novu APU generaciju već nekoliko puta najavljen kroz procurene informacije i roadmap serije.


Te fore da 'oni' nisu trebali su bezveze, valjda se nas pita što trebamo, a svakako trebamo igpu s perfomansama iznad posrane gt1030. Uostalom, njima intel nije konkurencija za apu, jer intel svoje igpu ne reklamira kao 'gaming' za razliku od amd-a. Svaka njima čast ali dok rast cpu perfomansi stvarno osjećamo iz gen u gen, tamo gdje je taj rast još bitniji obzirom da uglavnom njega nedostaje - kod igpu, e tu su zaglavili i jedva da ima pomaka

Manuel Calavera 20.06.2021. 12:09

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Autor Mladenxy (Post 3526154)

Ludilo. Intel će napokon složit 56 core, AMD nabaci 128 core...

Što se tiče nasljednika ryzen 5000 serije, vremenski okvir mi je malo uzak ako će doći u Q4 2021 - Q1 2022, a zen4 u Q2 2022...
Možda ta dva flagshipa sa 3d chache nazovu 5000 serijom ili će zen4 ipak doći u Q3 ili Q4 2022

The Exiled 20.06.2021. 12:40

U slučaju kad i mogu parirati AMD-u po broju jezgri, opet ih muči sama arhitektura i činjenica da su minimalno jednu generaciju iza AMD-a u svemu. Još su k tome odgodili Sapphire Rapids za 2022.
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We see that the AMD EPYC 7543P tends to be ahead of the Intel Xeon Gold 6314U by 25-33%. Overall, Intel can claim a lower price by almost 5%. AMD can, however, claim that it has 20-33% better performance as well as additional PCIe Gen4 connectivity. Intel has its newer instructions and Optane PMem 200 support. Still, for the majority of buyers, it seems fairly clear that at list price, AMD has a better value proposition here. Overall, Intel made a lot of headway in this generation.
AMD je pripremil Zen 2 Rome za Intelov Ice Lake, a obzirom da su ovi zakasnili, Ice Lake se na kraju mora nositi sa Zen 3 Milan modelima.

Sapphire Rapids 56C/112T opet sa zakašnjenjem dolazi na nož kod Zen 4 Genoa primjeraka u kombinacijama od 96C/192T i 128C/256T.
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AMD EPYC Genoa will be competing with Intel’s Sapphire Rapids 4th Generation Xeon server CPU, which boasts 56 cores and 8-Channel DDR5-4800. Those mere 56 cores require four 15-core Golden Cove dies at 372mm˛ each, fabbed on 10nm++ and glued together with Intel’s EMIB (Embedded Multi-Die Interconnect Bridge) technology, and has 112 MB of L3 cache. While these specs line up fairly well with AMD’s current Milan 7003-series EPYC CPUs, those CPUs have already launched, whereas Sapphire Rapids isn’t due until 2022, where it will be met head-on with Genoa, which will likely be cheaper to manufacture and clock higher at better TDPs; a veritable hat trick in the semiconductor industry for sure.

The Exiled 22.06.2021. 18:55

AMD Ryzen Embedded V3000 series rumored with Zen 3 CPU paired with RDNA 2:kafa:
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It is suggested that AMD's upcoming Ryzen Embedded V3000 series will pair the company's mighty Zen 3 CPU architecture with its stout second generation Radeon DNA (RDNA 2) graphics. The leaked information comes courtesy of Patrick Schur, who seems plugged into AMD's inner dealings. According to what he supposedly knows, the Ryzen Embedded V3000 lineup will also boast support for next-generation DDR5 memory. Well, this essentially amounts to a Zen 3+ refresh, with the 6nm node and DDR5 memory support. Assuming this and other recent leaks are true, AMD seems to be in the midst of a reshuffling effort. To that end, its upcoming Rembrandt APUs are also said to be based on Zen 3+ and built on a 6nm node. In addition, AMD recently touted a sort of Zen 3 refresh, with future parts debuting with stacked 3D vertical cache to bolster performance to a degree normally seen with a generational leap in architectures. As for the Ryzen Embedded V3000 series, it's said these chips will be offered with up to 8 cores and 16 threads. There will be multiple models split between 15-30W and 35-54W designs. On the graphics side, we're looking at up to 12 compute units based on RDNA 2. Other features include 20 PCI Express 4.0 lanes and support for two DDR5-4800 modules with two channels apiece, up to two USB 4.0 ports, and two 10Gbps Ethernet ports.
https://i.postimg.cc/9fk3rCX0/Ryzen-...3000-Tweet.jpg

Izvor: HotHardware

Disco 23.06.2021. 05:45

A koji vrag je taj V3000? Kolko kužim to nije za desktop?

stef 23.06.2021. 07:27

Ovo bi bio odličan NUC form factor. Imali su već V1000 i V2000, ali nije bilo produkata nešto za mainstream tržište. (Asrock je imao iBox seriju industrijskih PC-eva).

The Exiled 23.06.2021. 08:26

Da, imaju otpočeka embedded seriju (1 - 2 - 3) za kojekakve industrijske namjene, a s ovom novom V3000 serijom idu na 6nm Zen 3 jezgre i RDNA 2 iGPU, a to je ujedno i dodatna (neslužbena) potvrda da sljedeća APU generacija stiže sa RDNA 2.:chears:

The Exiled 10.07.2021. 20:11

AMD Threadripper 5000 series is expected to be released in August:kafa:
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The highly anticipated Zen 3 architecture Threadripper 5000 series HEDT CPU may be released in August. Threadripper 5000 is code-named "Chagall" and can be seen as the HEDT version of the already released Zen 3 EPYC Milan. Chagall succeeds Castle Peak, which is the existing Threadripper 3000 series. The main difference lies in the Zen 2 → Zen 3 architecture, and the single CCX 16MB → 32MB unified L3. There is no change in the number of cores, memory, PCIe channel IO, etc. After all, Milan's IOD is only a minor change, xGMI2 is upgraded to 18GT/s, and the rest remains unchanged.
https://i.postimg.cc/9Q5Wcd2b/20210710142000.png

On-chip water cooling: TSMC wants to cool up to 2 kW directly on the chip
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At the VLSI Symposium, TSMC research associates gave an interesting presentation on a possible cooling solution for future chips that envisages a direct integration of water cooling into the chip itself. First of all, one should ask oneself why direct water cooling in or on the chip might be necessary. Chips such as the A100 accelerator from NVIDIA, together with the HBM2E and as an SXM4 module, already have a waste heat of up to 500 W. Intel's Xe HPC chip Ponte Vecchio even has up to 600 W in the room. Despite modern manufacturing techniques, it is becoming increasingly difficult to cool such chips. TSMC's goal is to develop cooling solutions for waste heat in the range of 10 W per square millimeter. Depending on the size of the chip, however, these 10 W/mm² are already very ambitious. For larger chips (500 mm² and more), TSMC targets a TDP of 2,000 W (2 kW).
https://i.postimg.cc/F1Zp7bYq/TSMC-S...1-CC757749.jpg

Izvor: MoePC i HardwareLUXX

Starsylph 10.07.2021. 20:25

Kakav je to socket TRX4? Jel moze AM4 maticna ga podržati ili je to potpuno novi?

The Exiled 10.07.2021. 21:16

Jedno s drugim nema nikakve veze, dva potpuno odvojena i različita socketa namijenjena sasvim drugačijim tržišnim segmentima.:)
https://i.postimg.cc/V61zQMxT/image.png https://i.postimg.cc/JnqM10mh/image.png
Nova Threadripper 5000 serija ide (uz BIOS update) na (postojeće) TRX4 ploče, dok AM4 ostaje za (aktualne) mainstream Ryzen modele.

Dottore 10.07.2021. 21:39

@Exiled

Čovjek opako trola na svim temama. Već smo primjetili kakve postove postavlja pitanja. Zato trošiš vrijeme.

The Exiled 10.07.2021. 21:42

Znam, krenulo je s tim da kupuje novo u vrijeme kad nema ničega po normalnim cijenama, pa se raspituje, pa čeka, pa ovo, pa ono, a sad smo na socketima.:):D

Disco 13.07.2021. 10:24

Nemojte zaboravit i da čeka da zapravo Intel izbaci brže, bolje, hladnije i jeftinije.
Ali da. zatrolao ej po ciejlom forumu, i u grafama i u procovima.... :D

The Exiled 13.07.2021. 10:41

Možda Intel čak i najavi nešto vrijedno čekanja, ali do onda - ko živ, ko mrtav.:):D
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TSMC dossier: Technology contention among world-class leaders:kafa:
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Intel claims that TSMC's 7nm process is the equivalent of Intel's 10nm process. This may be true in terms of tech specs but Intel hasn't really outraced still TSMC. Samsung, on several occasions, announced they led TSMC in launching more advanced process technologies, but it failed to secure key customers. For the foundry sector, announcing more advanced process nodes ahead of competitors doesn't necessarily mean success. Production yield rates, partnerships with suppliers and co-development with customers nmnplay more important roles. At the 10nm node, TSMC achieves a silicon density of 53 million transistors per square millimeter while Samsung's transistor density arrives at 52 million. The two are neck and neck. But Intel's 10nm node features a density of 106 million transistors, even superior to the densities of 97 million transistors and 95 million transistors of TSMC's and Samsung's 7nm nodes respectively. But Intel hasn't won over customers with its front-running performance. The main issue is the yield rates for volume production and customer trust. Intel's 7nm technology puts up a high standard of 180 million transistors per square millimeter but it's only a benchmark for the high-tech sector but not commercially viable.

And TSMC seems to be pulling farther and farther ahead of Samsung in technology with its 5nm process achieving a density of 173 million transistors, which is comparable to the density of 180 million transistors Intel's 7nm process promises and beats the density of 170 million transistors Samsung's 3nm process boasts. TSMC was also the first to largely incorporate EUV equipment into its production lines. In fact, more than half of the EUV equipment produced worldwide is being used by TSMC to churn out more than 70% of the global chip production. TSMC not only enjoys a high profit margin but in practice, it has also gained lots of hands-on experiences in controlling and improving the issue of dust on EUV masks. This allows TSMC to secure a 55% share of the foundry market and generate more than 80% of the global foundry revenue.
https://i.postimg.cc/0ynJ1tNs/1.jpg

Izvor: DigiTimes

Odinarius 13.07.2021. 11:29

Izgleda prilično jednostavno kad se tako promatra, ali netko će posrnuti u toj utrci prije ili kasnije, bilo u proizvodnom procesu, bilo u arhitekturi... Pitanje je tko i kad :)

Nekako mi se čini da su tajvanske, pa i korejske firme otpornije na američki običaj da tijekom good times imenuju financijaše kao CEO i krenu u marketing i cost cutting umjesto tehnološki R&D, pa je i manja šansa da posustanu. Ali bilo je i suprotnih primjera, pa tko zna. Meni je sve to čisti triler, praćenje toga jedan skoro beskoristan hobi, ali i čista uživancija :)

The Exiled 13.07.2021. 11:48

Meni je fascinantno kak se Intel zajebal kad imal priliku uložiti u TSMC, da bi danas trebali njihovu pomoć u realizaciji svojih najava.

Kaj se pak same arhitekture i proizvodnog procesa tiče ...
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Autor The Exiled (Post 3523466)
Da, ali AMD od 2019. već ima funkcionalne 7nm proizvode na tržištu, a za to vrijeme kad Intel uopće krene sa svojim, AMD će već biti na 3nm.:)

I OK, svi znamo da su imena tih nm proizvodnih procesa samo marketinški nazivi, te su u ovom trenutnku mogu komotno zvati Branko i Slavko.

Jedini je zajeb da Branko (AMD) već godinama na terenu odrađuje posao, dok Slavko (Intel) tek mora poslati CV i temeljem kvalifikacija potencijalno biti pozvan na razgovor za posao.

... Intel se fino poskliznul na vlastitim riječima i obećanjima, dok su TSMC i Samsung (u Intelovim očima) kao manje vrijedni fino napredovali i na kraju prestigli Intel za par generacija.

Jasno, kad-tad bude sve skupa udarilo u zid, ali čini se TSMC i društvo za razliku od Intela ipak malo bolje planiraju svoj dio priče.:)

Disco 14.07.2021. 10:07

AMD Zen 4 desktop processes up-to 16 cores, 170 W TDP

Starsylph 14.07.2021. 12:17

the CPUs will migrate to a new LGA1718 AM5 socket due to that new memory and PCIe revision - in an effort to compete with Intel's 24-core Raptor Lake Successor, Alder Lake-S.


Znaći to će biti prvi AM5 model. Zen3+ jos uvijek AM4.


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Autor Dottore (Post 3531333)
@Exiled

Čovjek opako trola na svim temama. Već smo primjetili kakve postove postavlja pitanja. Zato trošiš vrijeme.

Ne trolam. Pa imam prijatelja koji ni ne zna sto je to socket.

The Exiled 14.07.2021. 16:18

Raphael with Zen 4 with 16 cores and 170W (Update):kafa:
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While the launch of the next generation at Intel is due this fall, it will still be some time before AMD launches the next generation of Ryzen. Nevertheless, there is now a new surge of possible information about the next processors, which will then be based on the Zen 4 architecture. What we already know from some leaks (or rather probably know, because they are still rumors) is that the codename of the desktop processors is Raphael. The individual Zen 4 cores are called Persephone and a CCD with eight of these cores is called Durango. Since the basic structure of the processors with one IOD and two CCDs should not change, one could also assume that AMD for the desktop again at 16 cores. Rumors also spoke of a variant with 24 cores, which would then require three CCDs (and also a modified IOD). However, two sources are now established: Raphael will be available with a maximum of 16 cores. However, this does not rule out the possibility that AMD will not increase the number of CCDs and thus the number of cores for a second Ryzen generation based on Zen 4.

The presence of an integrated graphics unit is also confirmed once again. This is apparently located in the IOD and is based on the RDNA-2 architecture. Patrick Schur, usually always very well informed with AMD hardware, also confirms the TDP of up to 170W and the production in 5nm. The IOD (CIOD3 - Consumer IOD of the third generation) should switch to production in 7nm. The TDP of up to 170W has already been hotly debated, but here we should wait and see what exactly is meant by it. Currently, AMD calls a maximum TDP of 105W for its Ryzen desktop processors. Via the PPT (Package Power Tracking), however, the actual power limit of the processors is specified and this is currently 142W which in practice also corresponds to the actual maximum consumption.

At the end of the year, AMD wants to have Ryzen processors with 3D V cache manufactured. These should then come on the market in the first quarter of 2022. Whether this is the Zen3+ refresh alias Warhol, or AMD will use the 3D V cache on Zen 3 CCDs here, is not known. Raphael alias Ryzen 7000 series will certainly wait until mid-2022. Patrick Schur goes one more way and names the TDP classes that will be used for Raphael. Accordingly, it starts at 65W and over 95W, 105W, 120W up to 170W. A Ryzen 5 5600X currently starts at 65W, all faster Ryzen models are guided with 105 W. According to AMD's definition, the processors do not consume more than 105 W. However, the PPT (Package Power Tracking) reaches up to 142 W. If the PPT factor of 1.35 remains based on the TDP, the processors with a TDP of 170W achieve a maximum power consumption of 230W.
Izvor: Hardwareluxx

The Exiled 28.07.2021. 10:26

AMD Reports Q2 2021 Earnings: Company-wide growth drives doubled revenue:frend:
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For the second quarter of 2021, AMD reported $3.85B in revenue, making for yet another massive jump over a year-ago quarter for AMD, when the company made just $1.93B in a then-record quarter. Now, half-way through 2021, AMD’s financial trajectory is all about setting (and beating) records for the company, as evidenced by the 99% leap in year-over-year revenue – falling just millions short of outright doubling their revenue. AMD’s big run-up in revenue is also reflected in the company’s other metrics; along with that revenue AMD’s net income has grown by 352% year-over-year, now reaching $710M. And if not for an unusual, one-off tax benefit for AMD’s Q4’2020, this would have been AMD’s most profitable quarter ever – and indeed is on a non-GAAP basis. Meanwhile, as you might expect from such high net income figures, AMD’s gross margin has risen even further and now sits at 48%, up 4 percentage points from the year-ago quarter and 2 points from last quarter.
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We remain on-track to launch next-generation products in 2022, including our Zen 4 processors built with industry-leading 5nm process technology and our RDNA 3 GPUs.

— AMD CEO, Dr. Lisa Su
Izvor: AnandTech

Starsylph 28.07.2021. 23:20

AMDu se nikamo se žuri. Intelu će ustupiti Alder lake i XE početkom godine, a Zen4 i RDNA3 će plasirati krajem sljedeće.

BusMaster 29.07.2021. 00:57

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Autor Starsylph (Post 3535147)
AMDu se nikamo se žuri. Intelu će ustupiti Alder lake i XE početkom godine, a Zen4 i RDNA3 će plasirati krajem sljedeće.

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Točno, nemaju toliki presing kao Intel, ali baba je najavila da ipak dolazi nekakav refresh 5000 serije, kakav.. bumo videli. Ipak je predugo vrijeme do launcha ZEN4, a glupo bi bilo da im Alder Lake preuzme vodstvo u PC segmentu, sad kad su u najvećem zamahu u povijesti firme.

Link: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...rdna-3-in-2022

Dr. Strange 29.07.2021. 16:54

Rasturaju: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/am...el-11627487890

Dr. Strange 29.07.2021. 17:27

Ma AMD propada kako to neki Intelovci kažu, zbilja im se ne vidi budućnost: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/xi...s-271627504461

The Exiled 29.07.2021. 18:16

Ode sve u Mp3:chears::goood::frend:
https://i.postimg.cc/PJfF9kmQ/AMD.png

Mladenxy 29.07.2021. 18:41

A mogli smo ih kupti (pametni jesu), dok su bile 2$.

Psycho 29.07.2021. 19:06

dovoljno je bilo i kad je bila 30$.. 3.5x svoju lovu. nije Lambo, ali covjeka veseli.

BusMaster 29.07.2021. 19:26

MSI Shows Off X570S ACE, CARBON & UNIFY Motherboards, Full Unveil On 17th August


https://wccftech.com/msi-unveils-meg...-motherboards/

BusMaster 30.07.2021. 21:50

ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Extreme Flagship AM4 Motherboard Unveiled – 20 Phase VRM For Extreme Ryzen Overclocking

Link: https://wccftech.com/asus-rog-crossh...-20-phase-vrm/

Uff, kakva pločetina za AM4, samo što vjerujem da će i cijena biti ekstremna..


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