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microsoft66 14.06.2022. 07:22

Bit ce grafickih :)

Libertus 14.06.2022. 08:22

Ako će netko prodati jeftino 6600 xt Nitro ili Pulse, bilježim se sa štovanjem. :)

thunder11 14.06.2022. 19:21

Sad ce ponovno jedan kratki BTC pump, pa nakon toga opet na staro.

kopija 14.06.2022. 19:56

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Autor ICT Avatar (Post 3606055)

Ko je jamio je jamio... svaka mu dala

Rambo3 18.06.2022. 17:50

Evo ispod 20 smo...horor, strah, užas, kraj?

geronimo_2 18.06.2022. 18:09

naravno, ko i x puta do sad :D

thuNdeR 18.06.2022. 18:34

yup, samo dca i nema greške.

duggi 18.06.2022. 19:15

dok je rat neće prestat padati to je ziher

AndroiOs 18.06.2022. 19:17

Ma nema dizanja godinama

jucca 18.06.2022. 21:04

88.000BTC o'slo na pazar 😁

Nego, jel zna tko zasto mi je prosao nizi limit order na 1inchu.
Imao sam dva aktivna, za isti token, slican iznos, isti par, i prodje mi ovaj za dosta manjim limitom? Nije da se bunim, ali ne kuzim zasto se to desilo. Ovaj nije niti pao toliko.

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Bradobradi 18.06.2022. 23:17

kukaju samo onikojima je ovo prvi bear....
najvise se zaradi kada ide sve nizbrdo.....
mislim na kraju se sve isplati sto se ulagalo...

gamer 18.06.2022. 23:25

And down we go... Coingecko kaže 17900$ za BTC u trenu pisanja posta.
Meh, opet će rasti. Sve već viđeno. Samo neka još padne, da mogu kupiti što više. :D

CatKiller 19.06.2022. 10:30

Nije li bazen s klijentelom koja ima slobodnog novaca i sklona riziku/spekiliranju nakon svakog pada sve manja i manja?

Do sad je stvarno svatko cuo za crypto. Tko je htio/mogao je mesetario. Odakle ce doci novi priljev novca u sustav?

dadoremix 19.06.2022. 12:15

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Autor CatKiller (Post 3607113)
Nije li bazen s klijentelom koja ima slobodnog novaca i sklona riziku/spekiliranju nakon svakog pada sve manja i manja?

Do sad je stvarno svatko cuo za crypto. Tko je htio/mogao je mesetario. Odakle ce doci novi priljev novca u sustav?


Ima ekipe koja ceka svoj trenutak
Ko i ja :)

The Exiled 19.06.2022. 16:34

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Why Celsius Fell Apart:kafa:

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Autor The Exiled (Post 3601590)
Jebote, koje se ovo fore, "besplatni nofci", tzv. stabilne valute i decentralizirani sustav, a sve skupa je veća muljaža od klasičnih bankara protiv koji se kao bore.
:frend:


Libertus 19.06.2022. 16:55

Izdržao sam 20 sekundi, nema šanse da ga istrpim 25 min. Ako postaji poanta videa, napiši molim te.

The Exiled 19.06.2022. 17:32

Kao i uvijek dosad, kriptomuljaže i podjednako mutni likovi koji prodaju maglu, dok istovremeno obećavaju brda i doline, da bi se na kraju sve srušilo ko kula od karata.:):D
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Celsius has borrowed at least $1 billion in tokens from Tether (1 - 2), the company behind the largest stablecoin and key pillar of support for crypto markets. Tether denied that this posed a risk to its token.
Sljedeći u nizu su Three Arrows Capital, a meni kao nekome tko nema nikakva kripto ulaganja, sve ovo djeluje jako zabavno - u true crime kategoriji.:frend:

Neo-ST 19.06.2022. 17:50

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Autor The Exiled (Post 3607161)
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Why Celsius Fell Apart:kafa:


Part I:
https://twitter.com/TheRealPlanC/sta...83503624806400

Part II:
https://twitter.com/TheRealPlanC/sta...25727115509760

The Exiled 19.06.2022. 18:01

To je to, Celsius materijala (1 - 2 - 3) ne nedostaje, a kripto prijevare zajedno sa svim uključenim stranama i igračima su zanimljivije, nego većina današnjih serija i filmova.:chears:
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Celsius Network lost at least 35,000 Ether in Stakehound key blunder
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On June 22nd, 2021, the Eth2 staking solution firm Stakehound announced that they had lost the keys to over 38,000 Ether they had deposited on behalf of clients. The loss had been originally discovered on May 2nd, but kept quiet as the company attempted to reclaim the key. Stakehound blamed their custody provider, Fireblocks, for the loss and sued the firm in Isreali court. To date, the issue has not been resolved. Customers have been left holding the Stakehound stETH token, which is now practically worthless.


listerstorm 19.06.2022. 18:21

Kaže Warren Buffett da za sve bitcoine na svijetu ne bi dao 25$.

Bill Gates pak kaže da su kriptovalute 100% bazirane na "Greater fool theory".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory

Ja isto podržavam tu teoriju.

Ne vjerujem dugoročno u kriptovalute pa razmatram špekulativnu preprodaju u kratkom roku.

Sad čekam da još drastično padne pa onda eventualno ulazim.

stitrek 20.06.2022. 02:44

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Autor listerstorm (Post 3607187)
Kaže Warren Buffett da za sve bitcoine na svijetu ne bi dao 25$.

Bill Gates pak kaže da su kriptovalute 100% bazirane na "Greater fool theory".

Heh, spominjes jedne od najvecih manipulatora, nedostaje ti jos samo SpaceX puppet.

Blockchain sam po sebi je odlicna tehnologija, 99% crypto coina su nepotrebni i ne treba ulagati u njih, jer kada je nekakav krah svi se cude kako-zasto.

Btc, Eth (Eth 2.0), Dot i eventualno Ada i Link su sve skupa 5 coina koji imaju smisla te su odrzivi, sve ostalo je kopija-kopirane-kopije sa puno obecavanja u svrhu bogacenja pojedinaca.

Btc ce uvijek biti tu bez obzira na Whaleove, regulacije i svjetska ekonomska pitanja, samo ostaje enigma kada kupovati i kada prodavati.

The Exiled 28.06.2022. 17:40

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Autor The Exiled (Post 3607171)
Kao i uvijek dosad, kriptomuljaže i podjednako mutni likovi koji prodaju maglu, dok istovremeno obećavaju brda i doline, da bi se na kraju sve srušilo ko kula od karata.:):D

Sljedeći u nizu su Three Arrows Capital, a meni kao nekome tko nema nikakva kripto ulaganja, sve ovo djeluje jako zabavno - u true crime kategoriji.:frend:

Š.O.K._i_V.J.E.V.E.R.I.C.A.:):D
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Wrecked Crypto Hedge Fund Giant Defaults on $670 Million Loan
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The high-profile crypto hedge fund Three Arrows Capital has failed to repay two loans worth a total of $670 million from the crypto trading platform Voyager Digital by the required deadline. As a result, Voyager issued a notice of default on Monday and said it plans to pursue recovery of the funds through the legal system. Voyager had made two loans to Three Arrows Capital, or 3AC, of 15,250 Bitcoins and $350 million worth of USDC, a digital stablecoin backed by U.S. dollars. Once a darling of the crypto industry, 3AC has collapsed amid broader tumult in the crypto industry after a series of highly leveraged bets went bad. The firm, started by childhood friends Zhu Su and Kyle Davies, had borrowed aggressively as it made large investments in the play-to-earn game Axie Infinity, the Solana blockchain, the crypto bank Celsius, and the cryptocurrency Luna, all of which have since crashed.
Research Firm FSInsight Accuses Three Arrows Capital of Running a ‘Madoff-Style Ponzi Scheme’
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The crypto industry was “brought to its knees” in recent weeks by an “old-fashioned Madoff-style Ponzi scheme” wrapped in a trade that was similar to the positions that sunk Long Term Capital Management (LTCM),” research firm FSInsight said in a report Friday looking at the implications of the implosion of cryptocurrency hedge fund Three Arrows Capital (3AC). Madoff in this scenario would be the founders of 3AC, Su Zhu and Kyle Davies, who used their reputation to “recklessly borrow from just about every institutional lender in the business,” resulting in pain for some high-profile names in the industry, including Voyager Digital, Babel Finance and BlockFi, Sean Farrell, head of digital asset strategy at FSInsight, wrote in the report. At its peak, 3AC’s assets under management (AUM) were supposedly over $18 billion, the note said. However, given that the amount of debt that is now known to have been loaned to them, it is unclear at this juncture how much actual equity was at risk. It is likely that the pair were simply “using borrowed funds to repay interest on loans issued by lenders, while ‘cooking their books’ to show massive returns on capital,” the note added.


AndroiOs 28.06.2022. 17:43

Nemaš kripto ulaganja ali pratis kripto više nego oni koji imaju ulaganja...
Šta te onda zanima kripto ?

The Exiled 28.06.2022. 17:47

Nemam ni raketu, pa me zanima sve vezano uz svemir, popratnu tehnologiju i Sci-Fi općenito.:)

Razvoj svih ovih kripto muljaža je IMHO bolji od većine aktualnih serija i filmova i koliko(o) imam prilike vidjeti, ljudi su skloni biti nasamareni uzduž i poprijeko.:frend:

Libertus 28.06.2022. 17:59

Ljudi su idioti kada pohlepa proradi. Ali 3AC nije, barem ne direktno, oštetio obične ljude. Posuđivali su od velikih firmi, koje su ujedno i popušile u toj priči.

The Exiled 28.06.2022. 18:08

Da, nažalost domino efekt je u punom jeku, 3AC posudi od (između ostalih) Voyagera i BlockFia, da bi isti bili spašavani od strane Bankman-Friedove Alamede i FTX-a.
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FTX, Bankman-Fried’s crypto exchange, agreed to provide crypto lender BlockFi with a $250 million revolving credit facility. Alameda, Bankman-Fried’s quantitative trading firm, committed $500 million in financing to Voyager Digital, a crypto brokerage. FTX credit line proposal had a catch for BlockFi’s existing shareholders: It gave FTX the option to buy BlockFi “at essentially zero price.” If FTX were to exercise said option, it would effectively wipe out all of BlockFi’s existing equity shareholders, including management and employees with stock options, as well as all equity investors in the company’s previous venture rounds.
Sam Bankman-Fried je pak "osebujni" pojedinac sam po sebi, tak da u ovoj kripto priči ništa nije nemoguće.
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FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried tries to explain yield farming and it's just a Ponzi
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Sam Bankman-Fried, chief executive and founder of Bahama-based crypto-exchange FTX, appeared on Bloomberg’s excellent Odd Lots podcast Monday, and was joined by the Borg’s Matt Levine alongside regular hosts Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway. Levine took the opportunity to ask SBF about the mechanics of “yield farming”, which involves staking coins or tokens in exchange for some form of interest. Remember, FTX is worth $32bn and sponsors organisations including Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team, the International Cricket Council and the Golden State Warriors. Oh, and Softbank is an investor.

Decentralizirani kripto je zapravo u rukama nekolicine pojedinca koji rade kaj god ih volja.

Neo-ST 28.06.2022. 18:17

Jeste gledali Chicov video u kojem otkriva pozadinu tih pojedinaca i odakle su došli?

The Exiled 28.06.2022. 18:30

Slobodno daj link, ako je zanimljiv materijal.:)

Neo-ST 28.06.2022. 19:06


The Exiled 28.06.2022. 19:24

Da, to je to, u rangu prijašnjih (Tether Papers) rasprava (1 - 2 - 3) i na tu temu samo je pitanje vremena kad se sve zajedno uruši.

Neo-ST 28.06.2022. 19:59

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Autor The Exiled (Post 3608813)
Da, to je to, u rangu prijašnjih (Tether Papers) rasprava (1 - 2 - 3) i na tu temu samo je pitanje vremena kad se sve zajedno uruši.

Tether bubble je zasad samo špekulacija bez dokaza o kojoj slušam već godinama.
Više mi je zanimljivo ovo da su došli iz kockarskih krugova.

The Exiled 28.06.2022. 20:20

Kak god se okrene, iFinex + Bitfinex + Tether su od samih početaka negirali bilo kakve poveznice, da bi se naposljetku dokazalo i pokazalo da su itekak povezani, a ekipa koja se krije iza svega je u najmanju ruku sumnjiva.
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From 2014 to 2018, Bitfinex placed over $1 billion with Crypto Capital because it was unable to find a reputable bank to work with it.

Crypto Capital then either lost, stole, or absconded with $850 million. In order to fill the gap, Bitfinex dipped into Tether’s reserves for hundreds of millions of dollars.
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Crypto Broker Voyager Digital Suspends Trading, Withdrawals
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Crypto broker Voyager Digital Ltd. is temporarily suspending trading, deposits and withdrawals due to difficult market conditions, amid a deepening meltdown in beleaguered cryptocurrency markets. New York-based Voyager, which offers crypto trading, staking -- a way of earning rewards for holding certain cryptocurrencies -- and yield products, is among the companies that have taken a hit amid the fallout from Three Arrows Capital Ltd.’s liquidity problems. It earlier received a credit line from Alameda Research, Sam Bankman-Fried’s trading firm. Voyager plunged as much as 43% in US trading following the news, making it one of the worst-performing crypto stocks.

FTX US Signs Option to Buy BlockFi in Crypto Sector Shakeup

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FTX US, the crypto exchange co-founded by billionaire Sam Bankman-Fried, signed an agreement to inject capital into BlockFi Inc. with an option to purchase the crypto lender, a transaction born out of a market selloff that may spur further industry consolidation. The deal includes a $400 million revolving credit facility, which is subordinate to all client funds, BlockFi said. It also gives FTX US an option to buy BlockFi for as much as $240 million, based on performance triggers. Together with other potential consideration, the deal represents a total value of as much as $680 million, Jersey City, New Jersey-based BlockFi said in an emailed statement Friday. Buying BlockFi will give FTX another foothold to expand in the US market. FTX is also exploring whether it might be able to acquire Robinhood Markets Inc., in which Bankman-Fried already bought a 7.6% stake.

Crypto Hedge Fund Three Arrows Files for Chapter 15 Bankruptcy
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Crypto hedge fund Three Arrows Capital has filed for Chapter 15 bankruptcy, a move that protects its US assets while a liquidation is carried out in the British Virgin Islands. Representatives for Three Arrows filed the bankruptcy petition in New York on Friday, court papers show. Chapter 15 bankruptcy filings stop creditors from seizing a company’s assets in the US. A British Virgin Islands court ordered the liquidation of Three Arrows Capital earlier this week. The fund, founded by former Credit Suisse traders Zhu Su and Kyle Davies, managed an estimated $10 billion of assets as recently as March, according to blockchain analytics firm Nansen.

Voyager Files for Bankruptcy Citing Contagion in Crypto Markets, Three Arrows Capital's Loan Default
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Crypto lender Voyager Digital has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. The company explained that the “prolonged volatility and contagion in the crypto markets” and the default of crypto hedge fund Three Arrows Capital (3AC) on a loan require it “to take deliberate and decisive action now.” In addition, the company said it “intends to seek recognition of the Chapter 11 case of Voyager in the Ontario Superior Court of Justice,” the announcement adds. A case filed under Chapter 11 of the United States Bankruptcy Code is frequently referred to as a “reorganization” bankruptcy. This type of bankruptcy puts a hold on all civil litigation matters and allows companies to prepare restructuring plans while remaining operational. In its filing, New Jersey-based Voyager estimated that it has more than 100,000 creditors. Alameda Research was the crypto lender’s largest single creditor, with unsecured loans of $75 million. In addition, Voyager said it has between $1 billion and $10 billion in assets, and liabilities worth the same value.

Voyager Digital duped customers with FDIC insurance
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Typifying the irrational exuberance of crypto investors, the firm’s equity (USD$49 million market cap) is trading lower than its crypto token VGX ($59 million market cap). VGX is subordinate to equity, confers no voting rights, and enjoys no investor nor consumer protection oversight. Instead, VGX is a “loyalty and rewards program” that allows token holders to earn “referral bonuses, lower transaction fees, prioritized customer support, higher PIK Interest rates, and access to special events and investment opportunities.” Billions of dollars of Voyager’s customer deposits are frozen pending the outcome of bankruptcy proceedings. Bloomberg columnist Matt Levine estimates that customers might only receive pennies on the dollar after it’s all finalized. Voyager’s marketing led customers to believe FDIC insurance would protect their assets in the case of the company collapsing — the fine print shows that to be incorrect.


John Creasy 08.07.2022. 13:32

došao mi na mail Invoice od Paypala na ime Norman Riley, piše gore neki "ncudakks@gmail.com", Invoice je na 421 dolar.. nisam koristio paypal mjesecima, nit sam kupovao coinove preko ijedne stranice..
"Note from Norman Riley

USD Coin (USDC) Payment Successful. Amount On the Invoice attached. If you wish to cancel call us right now at + 1 866 497 0154"

planiram ignorirat taj mail :D.. provjerio sam na računu od paypala, nema ništa tamo.. a USD coin nisam nikad ni kupovao.. garant me hoće preveslat

segregator 08.07.2022. 13:41

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Autor John Creasy (Post 3610623)
došao mi na mail Invoice od Paypala na ime Norman Riley, piše gore neki "ncudakks@gmail.com", Invoice je na 421 dolar.. nisam koristio paypal mjesecima, nit sam kupovao coinove preko ijedne stranice..
"Note from Norman Riley

USD Coin (USDC) Payment Successful. Amount On the Invoice attached. If you wish to cancel call us right now at + 1 866 497 0154"

planiram ignorirat taj mail :D.. provjerio sam na računu od paypala, nema ništa tamo.. a USD coin nisam nikad ni kupovao.. garant me hoće preveslat

Meni takve stvari dolaze na dnevnoj bazi, ne vidim razlog za čuđenje...više me začudi kad se neki provuče kroz yahoo mail spam filter

Neo-ST 08.07.2022. 15:23

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Autor John Creasy (Post 3610623)
došao mi na mail Invoice od Paypala na ime Norman Riley, piše gore neki "ncudakks@gmail.com", Invoice je na 421 dolar.. nisam koristio paypal mjesecima, nit sam kupovao coinove preko ijedne stranice..
"Note from Norman Riley

USD Coin (USDC) Payment Successful. Amount On the Invoice attached. If you wish to cancel call us right now at + 1 866 497 0154"

planiram ignorirat taj mail :D.. provjerio sam na računu od paypala, nema ništa tamo.. a USD coin nisam nikad ni kupovao.. garant me hoće preveslat

Klasični scam spam.
Ne otvarati nikakve attachmente od takvih, čak i ako piše da je pdf.

cako 25.07.2022. 11:33

https://twitter.com/Dezaxe/status/15...otFQu9Utg&s=19

Valjda nije scam

dakky 29.07.2022. 14:11

na jednoj platformi ideš na Withdraw, na drugoj na Deposit, samo pazi da izabereš isti chain, npr. Tron ili TRC20 za USDT da bude najjeftniji transfer.

jucca 18.08.2022. 19:32

Jel zaranjamo 😁

https://twitter.com/rovercrc/status/...SZTtSRNZw&s=19

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gunther 18.08.2022. 20:38

Koliko zaranjamo?

Da zaranjamo, nije upitno

jucca 26.08.2022. 13:00

https://youtu.be/B95xYAfRCtY

Odario tweet, i "mali" je u par dana skupio preko 300.000$ za obranu od Bitboya koji ga je tuzio.
Na kraju prasac odustao od tuzbe 😁

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