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MAGARAC 02.03.2011. 12:04

Nije predvideno ali radi bez greske. Nije tx650 onda ni prilagoden za vise od 1 grafe a ja sam bez problema ganjal 3 kom sa njim. Bilo kako bilo ak mislis takvu zvijer ganjat, odn. imat neke koristi od nje bez 2560x1600 monitora ili 3 manja i i7 proca na 4.0ghz nema smisla.

Astral 02.03.2011. 12:19

To nema veze, jako malo graficki ga uopce zahtjeva, gledaj samo jacinu napajanja, pod to mislim na kolicinu ampera na 12v railu. Ni jedno napajanje nije "customizirano" za odreden tip kartica...

Edit: Magarac me prestigo :-)

Romano.Cule 02.03.2011. 19:39

Mislis da nema potrebe? 3D Vision zahtjeva dupli prikaz u 1680 x 1050 pa sam mislio malo pojacati.Proc mi je 3.8 ghz Quad core Phenom II

Astral 02.03.2011. 19:53

uzmi grafu ako mislis da ti treba, ali napajanje nemas potrebe mijenjat

pci_e3x 09.03.2011. 21:19

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590 Launch Date is March 22

The dust seems to have settled down, after AMD's launch of the Radeon HD 6990, extending the red-team's performance lead previously held precariously by the Radeon HD 5970, to the GeForce GTX 580. It looks like NVIDIA will challenge the performance leadership with GeForce GTX 590, a dual-GPU graphics card that uses two GF110 GPUs (the ones on GTX 570 and GTX 580), for an SLI-on-a-stick solution. Rumors of NVIDIA working on this card became concrete as early as in November 2010, when NVIDIA's reference board became public for the first time.

Latest reports suggest that NVIDIA has chosen March 22 as the launch day of GeForce GTX 590. Incidentally, that is also the launch date of EA/Crytek's much-hyped, initially DirectX 9 action/shooter game, Crysis 2. GeForce GTX 590 uses two GF110, though the shader configuration and clock speeds are not known. Since NVIDIA is chasing the top-spot, you can expect the most optimal configuration for the GF110s. A total of 3 GB (1536 MB per GPU system) on board, and NVIDIA's workhorse PCI-E bridge, nForce 200 will be the traffic cop and radio station between the two GPUs. The card will be able to do 3DVision Surround (NVIDIA's multi-display single head technology comparable to ATI Eyefinity) on its own, without needing a second card.

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/8969/147a.jpg

http://www.techpowerup.com/141837/NV...-March-22.html

T}{OR 09.03.2011. 22:06

Znači nije 15. nego 22.

Još samo ako uspiju hlađenje riješit da nije promašaj kao 6990...

Doink the Clown 10.03.2011. 10:11

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Autor T}{OR (Post 1867011)
Znači nije 15. nego 22.

Još samo ako uspiju hlađenje riješit da nije promašaj kao 6990...

Nadam se da će vapor chamber sistem biti dovoljan da solidno odradi hlađenje na referentnim modelima dok kod MSI TF/Gigabyte modela ne bi trebalo biti problema prema dosadašnjim performansama od GTX460 pa nadalje :)

T}{OR 10.03.2011. 22:26

Ako je suditi prema novoj 5xx seriji trebali bi, no s druge strane (ako se ne varam) i HD6990 ima "parnu komoru" pa se ipak na pojedinim review-ima gasila zbog pregrijavanja.

Matth€w 12.03.2011. 11:52

Single slot cooling na GTX 590?

http://limages.vr-zone.net/body/11563/1-0.png

kripton 12.03.2011. 18:59

Jedva su G92 hladili na signle slot, ovo ce imat naljepnicu na sebi 'zapaljivo':D

Doink the Clown 12.03.2011. 19:07

Citiraj:

Pardon for the mistake, we missed out the bottom part of the cooler which is about a slot thick so GeForce GTX 590 is still a dual slot card.
Toliko o tome :D



Matth€w 12.03.2011. 19:17

Ma normalno da je dual slot, gdje bi stao taj treći aktivni DVI za mogućnost single card nVidia Surrounda kojeg su više puta najavili, a i sumnjam da ne bi još pored njih imala i HDMI/DP izlaz, jednostavno ne bi fizički stalo na single slot I/O backplate. Da ne pričam o količini topline (i vrlo vjerojatno većeg RPM-a/buke ventilatora) koje bi proizvodila ma koliko god da hladnjak bio dobar.

Doink the Clown 12.03.2011. 19:18

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Autor Matth€w (Post 1869204)
Ma normalno da je dual slot, gdje bi stao taj treći aktivni DVI za mogućnost single card nVidia Surrounda kojeg su više puta najavili, a i sumnjam da ne bi još pored njih imala i HDMI/DP, jednostavno ne bi fizički stalo na single slot I/O. Da ne pričam o količini topline (i vrlo vjerojatno većeg RPM-a ventilatora) koje bi proizvodila ma koliko god da hladnjak bio dobar.

Pa normalno, optimističan naslov, ništa drugo. Još gledam ono :wtf2::D

Doink the Clown 14.03.2011. 17:17

GeForce GTX 590 Key Features Revealed
 
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An alleged partner presentation slide leaked to the internet reveals quite a bit more about the GeForce GTX 590 than what we already know. To begin with, it lays to rest speculations surrounding the shader configuration, each of the two GF110 GPUs have all 512 CUDA cores enabled. Next, the full width of the memory interface is utilized, giving you 1536 MB per GPU, or 3 GB of total memory on the card.

The rest are fascinating features, such as a removable cooler shroud that lets you clean the card from time to time (you might need to clean it now and then for the best cooling performance), heatsinks that use vapor-chamber technology, getting rid of those pesky heat-pipes, high-grade 12-layer PCB that uses 2 oz copper layers, and a 10-phase VRM (looks like 4+1 phase per GPU). As expected, the final iteration of the card needs to draw power from two 8-pin PCI-E power connectors. "Barely Street Legal"? Is it because they'll throw you out of LAN parties for having too much of a performance advantage? Hmmm.
http://tpucdn.com/img/11-03-14/80a_thm.jpg

http://www.techpowerup.com/142153/Ge...-Revealed.html

Tumor 15.03.2011. 06:57

http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/ite...ks-the-gtx-590

600MHz mi se cini puno prenizak takt.
Tako su vec "zaklali" GTX470 sa preniskim taktovima.

generic 15.03.2011. 07:10

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Autor Tumor (Post 1871214)
http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/ite...ks-the-gtx-590

600MHz mi se cini puno prenizak takt.
Tako su vec "zaklali" GTX470 sa preniskim taktovima.

To barem znači da će se dati jako clockati uz dobro hlađenje (osim ako OCP ne ulati u igru).

Doink the Clown 18.03.2011. 17:22

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590 Launch Delayed to March 24?
 
Odgoda od par dana izgleda...

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Originally slated for March 22, NVIDIA has reportedly delayed the launch of its new high-end GeForce GTX 590 graphics card to March 24, sources told Expreview.com. The reason for this delay is not known, and NVIDIA isn't confirming this delay. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590 is a dual-GPU high-end graphics card that uses two GF110 GPUs in an SLI on a stick solution.
http://www.techpowerup.com/142428/NV...March-24-.html

Romano.Cule 19.03.2011. 14:09

Znaci ipak ce biti 2 x 8 pin PCIE.Ali ako ce se grijati kao svinja i trositi pola kilowata moram jos razmisliti o kupovini.

crusher 19.03.2011. 19:09

Objavljeni podaci:
D13U-50 GF110/P1020
CUDA Cores
1024
Graphics Clock
612MHz
Processor Clock
1224MHz
Memory Clock 3420MHz
Memory Interface Width
2 x 384-bit
Memory Config 3GB GDDR5
Power Connector
s
Dual 8-pin
Dimensions 11" x 4.5", Dual Slot
Read more: http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-g...#ixzz1H4PkVc10

pci_e3x 24.03.2011. 14:56

Evo par reviewa:

GeForce GTX 590 review (guru3d)

GeForce GTX 590 SLI review (guru3d)

Nvidia GeForce GTX 590 3 GB Review: Firing Back With 1024 CUDA Cores (tomshardware.com)

ASUS GeForce GTX 590 3 GB (techpowerup.com)

Pizz 24.03.2011. 15:35

http://www.geforce.com/#/News/articl...eforce-gtx-590

Antiša 24.03.2011. 18:00

Čini se mrvicu sporijom od HD 6990. Al zato je tiša i nešto hladnija.

T}{OR 24.03.2011. 18:31

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Autor Antiša (Post 1878424)
Čini se mrvicu sporijom od HD 6990. Al zato je tiša i nešto hladnija.

I manje 'troši'.

pci_e3x 24.03.2011. 18:35

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Autor T}{OR (Post 1878442)
I manje 'troši'.

kad blokiraju 100% load na grafičkoj:

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Starting with the ForceWare 257 series drivers, NVIDIA is now using OCP at all times, meaning OCP now protects against any possible program that would generate an excessive load (as defined by NVIDIA), and not just FurMark and OCCT. At this time there’s definitely still a driver component involved as NVIDIA still throttles FurMark and OCCT right off the bat, but everything else seems to be covered by their generic detection methods.
source:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4239/n...le-card-king/4


EDIT:
LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRo-1VFMcbc&

HCS 24.03.2011. 20:57

"As a first step, I increased the voltage from 0.938 V default to 1.000 V, maximum stable clock was 815 MHz - faster than GTX 580! Moving on, I tried 1.2 V to see how much could be gained here, at default clocks and with NVIDIA's power limiter enabled. I went to heat up the card and then *boom*, a sound like popcorn cracking, the system turned off and a burnt electronics smell started to fill up the room. Card dead! Even with NVIDIA power limiter enabled. Now the pretty looking, backlit GeForce logo was blinking helplessly and the fan did not spin, both indicate an error with the card's 12V supply.
After talking to several other reviewers, this does not seem to be an isolated case, and many of them have killed their cards with similar testing, which is far from being an extreme test."

Izvor: Techpowerup


Nece bas nesto bit pretjeranog dizanja voltaze ocito, ili ce bit jako puno skurenih kartica, toliko o 50% OCu :lol2:

Matth€w 24.03.2011. 21:16

Pa bogami je nepotrebno odmah skočio s 1,0V na 1,2V, a što je s "prostorom" između? Ljudi su i sa 1,15V postizali ~920-950 MHz.

Mislim, znam da GTX 580 može ići/je išla i iznad toga (1,2V), ali svejedno, pomalo glup i nadobudan potez.

Sinac 24.03.2011. 22:03

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/gef...deo,12454.html

Izgleda dosta bolje od probnih verzija koje su se recenzirale ranije.

Mast3r Chi3f 24.03.2011. 22:32

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Autor Matth€w (Post 1878549)
Pa bogami je nepotrebno odmah skočio s 1,0V na 1,2V, a što je s "prostorom" između? Ljudi su i sa 1,15V postizali ~920-950 MHz.

Mislim, znam da GTX 580 može ići/je išla i iznad toga (1,2V), ali svejedno, pomalo glup i nadobudan potez.

"Using MSI Afterburner I increased the voltage by 75mV and bumping up the Core speeds to 753Mhz which resulted in an incredible score of 9816 on 3DMark 11 (p). Hoping to hit the 10k mark, I decided to bump the voltage to 125mV with Core speeds of 804Mhz. As 3DMark 11 was coming to a close, the whole system shutdown and I could see smoke coming out of the power cable connectors." - /tbreak.com

Matth€w 24.03.2011. 22:49

Oh-ho, nisam stigao baš pročitati previše reviewa, ali lijepa im je ovo "bolest" koja će očito imati svoju buduću konstantu kod modela.

Budem se sljedeći tjedan dokopao jedne GTX 590, pa da vidimo da li će i taj primjerak raditi na bijeli dim. :D

MAGARAC 25.03.2011. 00:51

"As a first step, I increased the voltage from 0.938 V default to 1.000 V, maximum stable clock was 815 MHz - faster than GTX 580! Moving on, I tried 1.2 V to see how much could be gained here, at default clocks and with NVIDIA's power limiter enabled. I went to heat up the card and then *boom*, a sound like popcorn cracking, the system turned off and a burnt electronics smell started to fill up the room. Card dead! Even with NVIDIA power limiter enabled. Now the pretty looking, backlit GeForce logo was blinking helplessly and the fan did not spin, both indicate an error with the card's 12V supply.
After talking to several other reviewers, this does not seem to be an isolated case, and many of them have killed their cards with similar testing, which is far from being an extreme test."
izvor: tehpowerup

Ouchhh, ista stvar se ponavlja. Mozda ce to bit dobro ako povuku gtx 590 na kratko i sloze ju kak spada jer su nesto grdo fulali. Ja se ponadao da ce gtx 590 bit zvijer za OC sa 50% potencijala ali ne moze,bar ne jos.
Po meni su performanse ocekivane s obzirom na mrsave taktvove. Vjerojano ce se stvar minimalno popravit sa driverima. Grafa je osjetno tisa od 6990, koja je trenutno najbucnija grafa sto postoji i to je jedini razlog zasto mi se 6990 ne svida. Za 5k kuna grafa treba bit tiha.

D-I-A-B-L-O 26.03.2011. 01:11

I po mogućnosti ne pregorijevati na svaki pokušaj nekakvg normalnog OC-a :D
Eh, nemoš imat i ovce i novce :D

Ivan123 26.03.2011. 09:28

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Autor MAGARAC (Post 1878674)
"As a first step, I increased the voltage from 0.938 V default to 1.000 V, maximum stable clock was 815 MHz - faster than GTX 580! Moving on, I tried 1.2 V to see how much could be gained here, at default clocks and with NVIDIA's power limiter enabled. I went to heat up the card and then *boom*, a sound like popcorn cracking, the system turned off and a burnt electronics smell started to fill up the room. Card dead! Even with NVIDIA power limiter enabled. Now the pretty looking, backlit GeForce logo was blinking helplessly and the fan did not spin, both indicate an error with the card's 12V supply.
After talking to several other reviewers, this does not seem to be an isolated case, and many of them have killed their cards with similar testing, which is far from being an extreme test."
izvor: tehpowerup

Ouchhh, ista stvar se ponavlja. Mozda ce to bit dobro ako povuku gtx 590 na kratko i sloze ju kak spada jer su nesto grdo fulali. Ja se ponadao da ce gtx 590 bit zvijer za OC sa 50% potencijala ali ne moze,bar ne jos.
Po meni su performanse ocekivane s obzirom na mrsave taktvove. Vjerojano ce se stvar minimalno popravit sa driverima. Grafa je osjetno tisa od 6990, koja je trenutno najbucnija grafa sto postoji i to je jedini razlog zasto mi se 6990 ne svida. Za 5k kuna grafa treba bit tiha.

Za 5k kn grafa treba rasturati u igrama, a za ostalo je manje bitno jer tko kupi tako nesto vrlo vjerojatno ce staviti i blok na nju. Uostalom u Hrvatskoj ako se proda 10 takvih kartica bit ce super, a vani je druga prica.

Uostalom kako ce driveri pomoci kartici da ne ispusti bijeli dim? Mogu jos dodatno optimizirati potrosnju, ograniciti je, ali mislim da je tu pitanje slabe regulacije + visoke temperature PCB-a i VRM-a. Po netu ima primjera i kada je kartica na defaultu odlazila u vjecna lovista

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRo-1VFMcbc

Evo jedna slika, vidi se tocno veliko zagrijavanje kod VRM-a

http://tof.canardpc.com/view/e9539d6...a9556839de.jpg

generic 26.03.2011. 10:21

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Autor Ivan123 (Post 1879346)
Po netu ima primjera i kada je kartica na defaultu odlazila u vjecna lovista

xtremesystems forum

Jerry 26.03.2011. 21:42

:D
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...5&postcount=47

SRV 26.03.2011. 23:10

Hahahaha. :D

Kartica jest epic fail, osobno bih radije recimo GTX560 SLI ili GTX580 nego to smetlje. Da ne pricam da se za tu lovu kupi GTX570 SLI.

s3t hooligan 27.03.2011. 12:44

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Autor Ivan123 (Post 1879346)
Za 5k kn grafa treba rasturati u igrama, a za ostalo je manje bitno jer tko kupi tako nesto vrlo vjerojatno ce staviti i blok na nju. Uostalom u Hrvatskoj ako se proda 10 takvih kartica bit ce super, a vani je druga prica.

Uostalom kako ce driveri pomoci kartici da ne ispusti bijeli dim? Mogu jos dodatno optimizirati potrosnju, ograniciti je, ali mislim da je tu pitanje slabe regulacije + visoke temperature PCB-a i VRM-a. Po netu ima primjera i kada je kartica na defaultu odlazila u vjecna lovista

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRo-1VFMcbc

Evo jedna slika, vidi se tocno veliko zagrijavanje kod VRM-a

http://tof.canardpc.com/view/e9539d6...a9556839de.jpg

ajme kako bi okrenia 2 ćevapa na njoj hhahahah , da +112 , mali su se oni zjebali sa ovom karticom xd.

Jerry 27.03.2011. 13:13

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Autor s3t hooligan (Post 1880024)
ajme kako bi okrenia 2 ćevapa na njoj hhahahah , da +112 , mali su se oni zjebali sa ovom karticom xd.

HD4870 su imali slicnih problema s VRMom ali nisu bas ovako crkavale.
Ipak sam se zbog toga uvijek klonio polovnih 4870 koliko god bile cijene primamljive.

Romano.Cule 27.03.2011. 13:14

Nevjerovatno.Najneisplativija kupnja ikad. Kad pomislim da sam htio zamijeniti gtx295 mrak mi padne na oci.Pa ova 590 nema sanse da izdrzi dvije godine,a da ne skvikne.

rockodaddy 27.03.2011. 14:08

Nakon ovoga fiaska nije mi uopce jasno kako su oni uopce uspjeli od gtx 570 i 580 napravit dobre kartice.Prvo serija 400 izuzev gtx 460 promasaj i sada ovo crnjenje,mene je sram a kamoli ne njih.Neka fermi zaborave i bace se na keplar sta prije jer ce ih Ati ponovo satrat a da nece ni trepnit.

kripton 27.03.2011. 14:59

http://tof.canardpc.com/view/e9539d6...a9556839de.jpg
Sad znamo sto je izazvalo nukleranu krizu u Fukushimi:D

Možda ce sredit karticu, pa da bude nesto tipa GTX 595 ili kako vec.


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