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McG 19.10.2008. 16:06

ECS A780GM-A Ultra AM2+ ploča bazirana na 780G+SB750 chipsetu
 
The latest ECS Black Series A780GM-A Ultra is based on the AMD 780G chipset with onboard ATi graphics from AMD with 160W (OC) Phenom processor (Socket AM2+) support. The A780GM-A Ultra has an integrated ATi Radeon HD3200 graphics IGP, which includes AMD Hybrid CrossfireX technology and DirectX 10 capabilities. In addition the motherboard features convenient Multimedia HDMI capabilities, while supporting 6x Sata ports, with RAID 0, 0+1, & 5 configurations, an E-SATA connector for convenient streaming of various media sources and other peripherals can be connected via the 2x PCI-E x1, 3 PCI as well as a RealTek ALC888 7.1CH High Definition audio, Gigabit Lan and proprietary ECS BIOS tweaking through the M.I.B Overclocking utility. All-in-all the perfect companion for a complete media center or HTPC system.
http://www.pohrani.com/t/2n/xV/A0uPsJO/amd-01.jpg
Izvor: ECS

nathan.fake 19.10.2008. 16:35

:dobar:

prva liga ploca... dobar layout... ima sve sto ce (nad)prosjecnom korisniku ikad trebat... a sigurno ce bit i jeftina :D

rijec je o 780G + SB750 konbinaciji... dakle ploca podrzava i ACC ;)

greg SE 19.10.2008. 21:09

jedino sto je ponuda high-end ecs ploca kod nas uvijek bila nikakva. mogao se kupiti samo zadnji srot na kojem je i izgradio reputaciju kakvu vec ima kod vecine nasih ljudi

4444josip4444 20.10.2008. 09:38

asrock ploče su u većini dobre, jednostavne, rjetko mi se desilo da se smrzavala ili sl, ili radi ili ne radi odmah u početku. Sad sam uzeo jednu biostar (MBO BIOSTAR, s. AM2, TA770 A2+, AMD 770, BUS 2000 MHz, serial ATA II, RAID, 7.1 zvuk, DDR 2, 1Gbps, ATX 2) u hgspotu 469kn, prezadovoljan sam s pločom. Na oko bolje napravljena od asrocka, sve je ravno polemljeno i kondenzatori ne felšaju. To mi je stroj kod televizora sa dvbt-dvbs karticom, 2 harda, stalno radi i nikakvih problema

Jelc 20.10.2008. 12:04

Citiraj:

Autor Visage (Post 1168502)
Ovo u IDLE-u, konacno da lici na neke normalne brojke :fiju:
Ali ode nebu pod oblake na drugoj strani :(

Kajgod, pa troši manje nego Q6600:)
Ili ti govoriš o potrošnji kad je naclockan na 3.1GHz?

Thorax 20.10.2008. 17:38

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Autor Scorpius (Post 1168079)
AMD 6500+ je došao kod nas...
764 kn u nitelu...

http://www.nabava.net/trazilica.php?q=AMD+6500&x=0&y=0

Valjda će cijena pasti narednih tjedana...

Nemaju oni to. Bio sam danas pitati i kaže lik da je to "u ponudi", ali ga još ne mogu dobaviti. Malo bezveze, al ajde.

micek_kc 26.10.2008. 22:24

nova dfi-jeva maticna sa 790fx+sb750 dostupna na diskont24???
http://www.diskont24.com/product.php?productid=39993
ni ja nisam vjerovao :lol2: pa sam nazvao i potvrdili su da je dostupna i da ako je narucim da je dostavljaju u roku 1-2 dana

NNikola 28.10.2008. 20:01

Treba pozurit sa kupovinom, ja planiram istu kupit.Jucer cijena bila 1130kn , danas 1250 kn.Za ne povjerovat, treba :Machineg:$ (citaj srusit dolar) pa ce cijene mozda pozda past malo???

stef 04.11.2008. 22:51

Phenoma ko' u priči, nakon Nove :)

Citiraj:

More details of AMD 45nm CPU lineup revealed

Latest news
Monica Chen, Taipei; Joseph Tsai, DIGITIMES [Tuesday 4 November 2008]

AMD is planning to launch two 45nm quad-core desktop CPUs (Deneb) – the Phenom X4 20550 and 20350 for socket AM2+ systems with core frequencies of 3GHz and 2.8GHz, respectively in November this year, according to sources at motherboard makers.

The company will also launch six 45nm triple-core CPUs (Heka and Regor) including 14x00, 12x00 and 1xx00e series. These triple-core CPUs will enter design validation test (DVT) and start shipping in the first quarter next year.

AMD will also launch six high-end 45nm quad-core CPUs (Deneb) and four entry-level (Propus) including 20x00, 18x00, 16x00 and 1xx00e series.

To prevent impact on its mainstream dual-core Athlon X2 CPUs, AMD has decided to let its 45nm AM3-based dual-core CPU (Regor) enter DVT stage by the end of the second quarter next year and will start shipping in the third quarter. The company has planned three 65W CPUs model numbered 10x00 for the category.

Although the company will largely enter the 45nm generation, in order to prevent potential yield rate problems from the new process, AMD will launch seven 65nm CPUs including three quad-core Phenom X4 CPUs (Agena) – 9950 (120W), 9850 (95W) and 9450e (65W), and two Athlon X2 CPUs (Kuma) – 7750 and 7550 in the first quarter of 2009, while two low-power Athlon X2 CPUs (Brisbane) – 5050e and 3250e, will launch in the near future.

In addition to adding new CPUs to its lineup, AMD is also clearing CPU inventory by dropping prices and is planning to issue last order notices for the two AM2+ quad-core CPUs scheduled to launch in November, in the second quarter of next year, while the high-end Phenom X4 9950 (140W) and 9850 (125W) are targeting for the end of the first quarter next year. Phenom X4 9750 and 9650 will phase out of the market by the end of the second quarter next year and fourth quarter this year, respectively.

AMD will also issue last order notices for three of its Phenom X3 CPUs including the 8450 between the fourth quarter this year and the end of first quarter next year. Three Athlon X2 CPUs including the 5200+ are set to phase out between the fourth quarter this year and the end of second quarter next year.

Low-power CPUs including the Phenom X3 8250e and Athlon X2 4450e, and the single-core Athlon LE-1640 and Sempron LE-1250 will all be phasing out of the market by the end of the fourth quarter.

AMD declined the opportunity to respond to this report saying it cannot comment on unannounced products.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20081104PD203.html

Jerry 11.11.2008. 17:12

Sa susjednog je foruma...
Ne znam gdje da ovo stavim ali mislim da se nece nitko buniti ;)
http://www.benchmark.rs/forum/showpo...&postcount=196
Ukratko:
Deneb ES :D
4GHz
zrak
1.475v

Metamphetamine 12.11.2008. 20:40

Vidi ti malog :zdero:

zippo 13.11.2008. 19:23

Malo novosti

http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/1...er-processor-2

McG 13.11.2008. 22:44

Phenom II X4 i mnoštvo drugih detalja oko nadolazećih arhitektura
 
Phenom II will be available in a couple of versions. The Phenom II X4 is a quad-core part initially released for the Socket-AM2+ platform but eventually it will be a Socket-AM3 part with DDR3 support. The Deneb core is a Phenom II X4 with 8MB of cache and the Propos version has a 2MB cache. Both of these cores have integrated DDR2 memory controllers, with a transition to DDR3 sometime in 2010. Caspian is a dual-core version of the 45nm Phenom II with a 2MB cache, Champlain hits in 2010 and is a quad-core Phenom II with DDR3 for the mainstream notebook market.

Geneva is a lower powered 45nm dual-core product, presumably Phenom II as well, due out in 2010 for ultra portables. AMD also revealed a bit of its 2011 roadmap, these products are based on the first new architecture since Phenom - called Bulldozer. In 2011 AMD expects to be at 32nm with its Orochi, Llano and Ontario cores. Orochi will be the new high end enthusiast desktop product with more than four cores, more than 8MB of cache and an integrated DDR3 memory controller. Remember from the server roadmap that in 2011 AMD will have 4-DDR3 memory channels on its server products so I'd expect at least a 3-channel DDR3 controller here.

Llano is the mainstream 32nm part with four cores, 4MB of cache, DDR3 memory controllers and an on-die GPU. Note that this is a delayed introduction of the first CPU/GPU fusion product, originally scheduled for 2009. AMD stated that the plans for the first CPU/GPU products got pushed back simply because the 45nm designs weren't compelling enough. The dies get small enough at 32nm that you can actually offer tangible benefits. Note that this also means that the first single-package CPU/GPU will actually come from Intel in 2009 with a Nehalem derived part and not from AMD. Finally we've got Ontario which is a very low power core based on AMD's upcoming Bobcat core. It's a dual-core product with 1MB of cache, on-die GPU and a DDR3 memory controller.
Citiraj:

AMD outlined all of the new platforms we'd see in 2009 and they are as follows:
  • 4Q 08 - Maui platform, HTPC with integrated 3.1 and 7.1 pre-amp or 5.1 amplified audio out.

  • 1Q 09 - Dragon platform, 45nm Phenom II X4 processors

  • 1H 2009 - Yukon platform, ultra portable and mini notebook space, sub-25W TDPs.

  • 2H 09 - Tigris platform, 45nm mainstream notebooks

  • 2H 09 - Kodiak platform, 45nm business class notebooks

  • 2H 09 - Pisces platform, 45nm quad and triple core processors, consumer desktop

Izvor: AnandTech

fordam 17.11.2008. 09:35

Phenom II x4 940 i 920 za AM2+
Phenom II x4 945 , 925 ...... za AM3
link

stef 17.11.2008. 09:52

Vidim da su uskladili nomenklaturu sa konkurencijom :goood:

Vrlo su zanimljivi X4 8xx serije, 45nm i pretpostavljam 4M L3. Znači, nova kategorija između Daneba i Propusa?

ShebY 18.11.2008. 12:44

El može neko prvojerit kristalnu kuglu i reči kad će am3?
Unaprjed se ispričavam ako je več spomenuto negdje na threadu

stef 18.11.2008. 13:19

Rano proljeće ... my guess. Ovisi kad će biti dostupne ploče sa DDR3 slotovima.

Al nije to ni tolko bitno. Za sad je važnije da možeš AM3 procesore (koji će navodno biti dostupni u veljači) kombinirati sa postojećim AM2+ pločama i bagatelno jeftinom DDR2.

Overhaul 18.11.2008. 18:28

Ja samo drzim palcheve da mi II X4 940BE (ako se tako bude zvao) bude radio sa postojecom gigabyte GA-MA790FX-DS5, iako jos nisu uspjeli napisati u Bios updateu ni da radi sa postojecim 9950 :/
btw. 125W je malo dosta TDP-a pogotovo ako se planira isprobavati dali doista ide do 4GHz? A nista, bit cemo mudriji nakon nove godine.

Vuco 19.11.2008. 17:51

Gigabyte objavio koje ploče će imati podršku za AM3/AM2+ 45nm procesore.

http://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/t...teAM3ploce.jpg

Link na vijest

nathan.fake 19.11.2008. 20:37

drugim rijecima...

SVE gigabyte AM2+ ploce... :D ukljucujuci i neke AM2 ploce (np. GA-MA74GM-S2H)...

s najnovijim bios-om... ce imati podrsku za AM3/AM2+ 45nm procesore... ;)

Valg 19.11.2008. 21:12

To je lijepo čuti, ipak će stara AM2 arhiktetura biti malo unaprijeđena, a ako je kod Gigabyte-a moguće, onda će i kod većine drugih proizvođača biti slična priča, što znači više love u džepu ;)

Jerry 20.11.2008. 21:12

Izgleda jako dobro!!! :D
Citiraj:

Update: The Phenom II reached 6 GHz+ at 1.9v on liquid nitrogen (boiling point -321F/-196C at 1 atm). Testing looks to have been done on a Gigabyte 790GX motherboard that is currently available.
http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=6455

Mr.Ex.President 20.11.2008. 21:22

1.9 jebate, toliko ni mobilcu nisan dava u ono vrime:goood:
Al neka, lipo je vidit da idu, meni će i pola toga bit overkill:D

Roberto 20.11.2008. 21:27

Jel se može vjerovat pcper.com-u, nema nigjde SS-a, ne posjećujem tu stranicu inače?

Nisam ljubitelj EXtreme OC-a, ali ovo je izvrsno ako je istinito. Svi amdejci su imali cold bug problem i zato nisu išli ovak visoko. Ovo bi značilo da je taj problem apsolviran :)

Još kad dođe Propus bez L3 cachea (manje zagrijavanje) :)

Ali voltaža je fakat ludost, samo za hvalisanje na najviše pol sata :D Meni bi također pola bilo čiist dosta, a iznad toga privaćam ono do kud ide na default voltaži uz zračno hlađenje i normalne temperature.

A vidim da i dežurni spammeri INQ i FUD još nisu reagirali :D

DraŽ 20.11.2008. 21:33

WoW! Nadam se da ce bar phenom II bit izjednacen sa core 2 u clock to clock i uspjeh im je zajamčen

McG 20.11.2008. 21:35

Ne budu izjednačeni s Core i7 radi arhitekture i to je jasno od početka, ali budu u rangu ili bolji od Core 2 modela.
EDIT:
AMD's Maui HTPC Platform

Maui is a fusion of AMD Live! Media Center software and AMD hardware that combine into a complete home theater PC platform. Maui features an Athlon X2 or Phenom series processor, an energy-efficient AMD 780M chipset (used normally for notebooks) motherboard, a special audio preamp and a high quality PCIe multi-channel amplifier that eliminates the need for an external amplifier.
This PC contains a 65W energy-efficient Phenom 9350e quad-core, the ATi TV Wonder 650 Combo tuner/video card, and the MSI Live DIVA (MS-7411) motherboard that has D2's programmable audio chip onboard for up to 7.1 pre-amp or 5.1 amplified home-theater quality audio right out of the back of your HTPC.

http://www.pohrani.com/t/2q/Q5/45gZ0bQm/amd-01.jpg http://www.pohrani.com/t/f/op/4dKkuevO/amd-02.jpg

Izvor: HOTHardWare i SPCR

Jerry 21.11.2008. 10:00

Citiraj:

Autor Mr.Ex.President (Post 1197417)
1.9 jebate, toliko ni mobilcu nisan dava u ono vrime:goood:
Al neka, lipo je vidit da idu, meni će i pola toga bit overkill:D

A sto mislis koja je voltaza C2D/Core i7 kada ih zaliju s LN2 i poguraju na 6GHz? ;)

BTW, mislim da ovo samo treba biti dokaz skaliranja arhitekture K10 po pitanju max takta u odnosu na K8.

Edit:
Izgleda da je ekipa vrtila na Denebu Crysis na 5GHz+! :D
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/836/1/

Roberto 21.11.2008. 10:39

Zapravo, Core i7 ne podnosi takve voltaže, ako se dobro sjećam s LN2 su mu davali maksimalno 1.65v, ne podnosi baš najbolje visoke voltaže...

Ovo je također i poruka Intelu, nisam dobro pratio i7, ali čini mi se da su i oni tu negdje s LN2 OC-om, 5+ GHz. žele reći da su im opet za vratom :D

Treba vidjeti da li je ovo handpicked model ili random, koja revizija (legit reviews navodi da je to C2-H stepping, jedan prije onog koji kreće u prodaju u siječnju - treba li tada očekivati i bolje performanse?), koje performanse, i najviše koji je realan, prosječan OC s normalnim zračnim hlađenjem.

U istinitost navoda ne sumnjam preivše, vijest su prenijeli mnogi pouzdani portali. Treba tek vidjeti detalje kad prođe NDA.

Mene najviše zanima cijena, nadam se da će biti povoljni, to bi uz dobre performanse natjeralo Intel da spusti svoje cijene.

Iako, da se pročitati na webu (Xbitlabs) da intel ne planira značajnije ''omasoviti'' prodaju Nehalema ni u 2009. godini. Treba vidjeti u kakvoj će mjeri biti dostupni Phenom II procesori.

U svakom slučaju ovo su dobre vijesti, konkurencija uvijek dobro dođe za krajnjeg kupca :)

Jerry 21.11.2008. 10:50

Citiraj:

Autor Roberto (Post 1197763)
Ovo je također i poruka Intelu, nisam dobro pratio i7, ali čini mi se da su i oni tu negdje s LN2 OC-om, 5+ GHz. žele reći da su im opet za vratom :D

Izgleda da su i malo ispred! ;)

Citiraj:

After lowering the temperature to -185°C and raising the voltage to somewhere north of 1.9V the processor was able to move north of 6GHz. We don't know the exact frequency. At this time this is actually higher than what Nehalem can do.
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,8389.html

coconut 21.11.2008. 10:59

@McG
Nije li malo čudno da ATI grafa sa slika nema apsolutno nikakvog coolera na sebi? Zna se da je ATI Wonder serija bila poznata po svom zagrijavanju.


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