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Trixie sam tjerao tjedan dana. Sad sam na Sid-u :D Osim sto me WLAN zezao/a nemam primjedbi. Malo po malo kao da dolazi do timeouta u otvaranju stranica. Plus imam 3 testna VM-a sa default VLAN-om (virt-manager/Cockpit/kvm/libvirt) i odjednom jedna od virtualki kao da izgubi rutu i nemože sa drugom pričat. To dvoje još moram istražit, dosad se nije tako često događalo da bi popizdio i išao istraživat. Nisam mogao steam-launcher instalirat pa sam puknuo flatpak verziju. Instalacija Nvidia drivera je - jednostavna (secure boot isključen), Optimus + Wayland kombinacija rade normalno. Sve radi kako bi se i očekivalo, nisam naletio na neke čudne bugove. Ovo s mrežom moram vidjet kaj sere kad ulovim vremena (AX211 čip). Uglavnom to je ono kad kažem da fakat nema smisla se zajebavat sa tamo nekim rubnim distrama sa slabim supportom, Debian je malo više posla možda u startu dok ne skužiš kao noob kaj instalirat da bi sve radilo kako želiš al jednom kad radi, čak je i "unstable" branch zapravo odličan desktop OS. Jedina stavka koja me živcira u odnosu na Fedoru jest što nemogu omogućiti Fractional Scaling za gnome. Lupio sam u Librewolf da skalira sve na 150% i sve 5. Za deskop aplikacije mi 2560x1440 reza čak odgovara, još nisam tolko ćorav :lol2:. Mislio sam već Fedoru opet puknut ali želim malo duže Debian koristiti i ispolirat si Ansible skripte za Debian tak da bumo vidli...

Cheesemassacre

08.07.2025. 14:13

Prebacio sam se s Archa na Void prije nekih tjedan dana. Odličan je. Sviđa mi se package manager. Runit je jednostavan. Podsjeća me na FreeBSD.

tomek@vz

09.07.2025. 08:56

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The Linux kernel mitigation for Transient Scheduler Attacks was just merged to Linux Git:

"Add the mitigation logic for Transient Scheduler Attacks (TSA)

TSA are new aspeculative side channel attacks related to the execution timing of instructions under specific microarchitectural conditions. In some cases, an attacker may be able to use this timing information to infer data from other contexts, resulting in information leakage.

Add the usual controls of the mitigation and integrate it into the existing speculation bugs infrastructure in the kernel"

The new "MITIGATION_TSA" Kconfig option for Transient Scheduler Attacks mitigations adds:

"Enable mitigation for Transient Scheduler Attacks. TSA is a hardware security vulnerability on AMD CPUs which can lead to forwarding of invalid info to subsequent instructions and thus can affect their timing and thereby cause a leakage."

> Phoronix

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Two local privilege vulnerabilities in the Sudo utility for Linux were recently discovered that could result in the escalation of privileges to root, which would let attackers fully take over an enterprise system.
Companies use the Sudo command-line tool on Linux systems to execute commands as the superuser. Sudo enforces the principle of least privilege, which lets users perform administrative tasks that require elevated permissions without sharing the root password.
In a June 30 Stratascale blog, the two bugs identified were CVE-2025-32462, which had a CVSS score of 2.8; and CVE-2025-32463, a critical bug that was assigned a CVSS of 9.3.
The vulnerabilities were patched in Sudo version 1.9.17p1 released late June, following responsible disclosure April 1. Advisories have also been issued by several Linux distributions, mainly because Sudo comes installed on many of them.

> scworld

stef	09.07.2025. 11:00

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Autor Cheesemassacre (Post 3812020)

Prebacio sam se s Archa na Void prije nekih tjedan dana. Odličan je. Sviđa mi se package manager. Runit je jednostavan. Podsjeća me na FreeBSD.

Jel to konačno "moderni" Slackware, ili najbliže tome?

spiderhr

09.07.2025. 11:07

Instalirao XFCE4 na laptop. Bio je Mate ali nešto se smrzne nekontrolirano (mogu u terminal s tipkama, restartati ga i to je to).

Znam da sam na jednom drugom laptopu imao problem s Mate da kada odem na neku stranicu ode u logout, stavio Trinity DE i toga nema.

D12 je u pitanju.

Nisam išao istraživati logove.

strikoo

09.07.2025. 11:58

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa8nMiEoti0&t

Cheesemassacre

09.07.2025. 12:11

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Autor stef (Post 3812132)

Jel to konačno "moderni" Slackware, ili najbliže tome?

Nikad nisam koristio Slackware pa ne mogu usporediti. Po meni ima sličnosti s BSD.

Znači, binary i source package manager, jednostavni init s rc.local/rc.conf, minimalizam, nije bleeding edge, čak je i installer sličan. Uglavnom jako sam zadovoljan

tomek@vz

09.07.2025. 12:17

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Autor stef (Post 3812132)

Jel to konačno "moderni" Slackware, ili najbliže tome?

Ne. Igrao sam se jedno vrijeme sa Voidom. Kao i Alpine želi biti poseban korištenjem MUSL (hint neke aplikacije baš ne delaju kak spada ili ne delaju uopće ako nema porta) umjesto GLIBC (da postoji naravno i GLIBC verzija tamo nema tih problema) biblioteka ali moj osobni feeling je da je samo još jedna prolazna distra koja postoji samo da bude "malo" drukčija u moru sličnih alternativa. xbps mi također iz nekog razloga nije sjeo, možda je to samo u mojoj glavi ali često mi se činilo da je zdrljan na brzaka. Nema potrebe zmišljavat toplu vodu - opet. Ako tražiš zamjenu za dobar stari Slackware...radije bih se držao Alpine-a (brži i bolje se drži KISS filozofije nego Void) ili Archa (puno bolja i točnija dokumentacija). Uostalom Pat još uvijek drlja po Slackware-u iako puževim korakom :D.

Dule	09.07.2025. 14:55

Stvar kod MUSL-a je da je sporiji od glibc, nije podržan na određenom softwareu (u mom slučaju VirtualBox i Nvidia ne rade), ali ima taj BSD-ovski feel, mali je, jednostavan, mali attack surface, i većina softwarea radi ok. Za neki mali server dušu dalo.

Mario92

09.07.2025. 16:35

https://imgur.com/a/IvfIM7p

Sviđa mi kak odmah u startu imam problema ni kriv ni ružan

Jedan dan stari install Fedore 42

EDIT: GNOME Software quit unexpectedly kad sam kliknul na Install :D

Dule	09.07.2025. 16:55

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Autor Mario92 (Post 3812209)

https://imgur.com/a/IvfIM7p

Sviđa mi kak odmah u startu imam problema ni kriv ni ružan

Jedan dan stari install Fedore 42

EDIT: GNOME Software quit unexpectedly kad sam kliknul na Install :D

Welcome to Linux :D

tomek@vz

09.07.2025. 17:09

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Autor Mario92 (Post 3812209)

https://imgur.com/a/IvfIM7p

Sviđa mi kak odmah u startu imam problema ni kriv ni ružan

Jedan dan stari install Fedore 42

EDIT: GNOME Software quit unexpectedly kad sam kliknul na Install :D

Probaj ručno pa javi ishod (izvodi kao običan korisnik bez sudo):

Code:

flatpak --user remote-add --if-not-exists flathub https://dl.flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo

flatpak install flathub org.telegram.desktop

flatpak run org.telegram.desktop

kopija

09.07.2025. 17:27

Ima i gorih stvari na Flathubu.

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Zbogom pameti....

https://www.dedoimedo.com/images/com...unverified.jpg

Mario92

09.07.2025. 17:53

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Autor tomek@vz (Post 3812219)

Probaj ručno pa javi ishod (izvodi kao običan korisnik bez sudo):

Code:

flatpak --user remote-add --if-not-exists flathub https://dl.flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo

flatpak install flathub org.telegram.desktop

flatpak run org.telegram.desktop

Prošlo je nakon restarta kompa.

Sad sam se sjetil problema zbog kojeg sam rage quittal linux na desktopu - imam problem da mi se nakon cca sat i pol potrga mreža, tj izgleda ko da ethernet kartica prestane delati i OS ju ne kuži sve do restarta.

E sad, ko Linux djevcu, logovi kao nekaj znače al ne znače puno. Konkretno, vidim ovo:

Code:

 5:32:25 PM kernel: usb 1-1.3.1: clock source 41 is not valid, cannot use

 5:32:24 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 203290 ms

 5:32:20 PM kernel: usb 1-1.3.1: 1:0: usb_set_interface failed (-110)

 5:32:18 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 197658 ms

 5:32:15 PM kernel: usb 1-1.3.1: 1:0: usb_set_interface failed (-110)

 5:32:12 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 9: transmit queue 0 timed out 191514 ms

 5:32:10 PM pipewire: pw.node: (alsa_input.usb-Razer_Inc_Razer_Seiren_X_UC2142L01201064-00.analog-stereo-98) suspended -> error (Start error: Connection timed out)

 5:32:10 PM kernel: usb 1-1.3.2: 2:1: usb_set_interface failed (-110)

 5:32:07 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 9: transmit queue 0 timed out 186394 ms

 5:32:05 PM kernel: usb 1-1.3.1: 1:1: cannot set freq 48000 (v2/v3): err -110

 5:32:05 PM pipewire: pw.node: (alsa_output.usb-GuangZhou_FiiO_Electronics_Co._Ltd_FiiO_K3-00.analog-stereo-61) suspended -> error (Start error: Connection timed out)

 5:32:01 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 181274 ms

 5:31:49 PM kernel: usb 1-1.3.1: clock source 41 is not valid, cannot use

 5:31:45 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 9: transmit queue 0 timed out 164378 ms

 5:31:44 PM kernel: usb 1-1.3.1: 1:0: usb_set_interface failed (-110)

 5:31:39 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 159258 ms

 5:29:16 PM kernel: usb 1-1.3.1: 1:0: usb_set_interface failed (-110)

 5:29:16 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 8: transmit queue 0 timed out 15386 ms

 5:29:06 PM kernel: hub 2-1:1.0: hub_ext_port_status failed (err = -110)

 5:29:05 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 5210 ms

 5:29:00 PM kernel: usb 2-1-port4: cannot disable (err = -110)

 5:28:58 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 54209 ms

 5:28:57 PM kernel: usb 2-1-port4: cannot reset (err = -110)

 5:28:53 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 49089 ms

 5:28:52 PM kernel: hub 2-1:1.0: hub_ext_port_status failed (err = -110)

 5:28:47 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 43968 ms

 5:28:46 PM kernel: usb 2-1-port4: cannot disable (err = -110)

 5:28:42 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 38336 ms

 5:28:42 PM kernel: usb 2-1-port4: cannot reset (err = -110)

 5:28:39 PM kernel: hub 2-1:1.0: hub_ext_port_status failed (err = -110)

 5:28:36 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 32193 ms

 5:28:34 PM kernel: usb 2-1-port4: cannot disable (err = -110)

 5:28:31 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 27072 ms

 5:28:30 PM kernel: usb 2-1-port4: cannot reset (err = -110)

 5:28:27 PM kernel: hub 2-1:1.0: hub_ext_port_status failed (err = -110)

 5:28:25 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 21440 ms

 5:28:21 PM kernel: usb 2-1-port4: cannot disable (err = -110)

 5:28:19 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 15297 ms

 5:28:19 PM kernel: usb 2-1-port4: cannot reset (err = -110)

 5:28:14 PM kernel: hub 2-1:1.0: hub_ext_port_status failed (err = -110)

 5:28:14 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 10176 ms

 5:28:09 PM kernel: r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: Failed to read 4 bytes at 0xb430/0x0133 (-110)

 5:28:09 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 5056 ms

E sad, to je NIC koji je u monitoru jer share-am jedan kabel na privatni i poslovni komp, koristim KVM jel. Na Winsima nikakvi problemi, ovaj setup dela pol godine, ali na Fedori 41 / 42 nula bodova.

Rješenja kaj vidim po netu vele "menjaj hardver" a to iskreno nije rešenje nego workaround. Kak primjerice troubleshootati ovo ko noob?

tomek@vz

09.07.2025. 18:26

R8152 modul ...gledaj dal javlja kakve firmware greške kod boota (dmesg).

Mario92

09.07.2025. 19:00

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Autor tomek@vz (Post 3812232)

R8152 modul ...gledaj dal javlja kakve firmware greške kod boota (dmesg).

Code:

[   20.721895] usbcore: registered new device driver r8152-cfgselector

[   20.833660] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 6 using xhci_hcd

[   21.058236] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 eth0: v1.12.13

[   21.058256] usbcore: registered new interface driver r8152

[   21.112562] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: renamed from eth0

[   24.514258] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: carrier on

[ 1528.229637] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: Stop submitting intr, status -71

[ 1528.365081] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: USB disconnect, device number 6

[ 1532.777666] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 11 using xhci_hcd

[ 1533.022244] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 eth0: v1.12.13

[ 1533.048589] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: renamed from eth0

[ 1536.493350] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: carrier on

[ 1694.788996] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: Stop submitting intr, status -71

[ 1694.897762] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: USB disconnect, device number 11

[ 1699.338668] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 16 using xhci_hcd

[ 1699.576989] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 eth0: v1.12.13

[ 1699.604697] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: renamed from eth0

[ 1703.054952] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: carrier on

tomek@vz

09.07.2025. 20:18

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Autor Mario92 (Post 3812241)

Code:

[   20.721895] usbcore: registered new device driver r8152-cfgselector

[   20.833660] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 6 using xhci_hcd

[   21.058236] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 eth0: v1.12.13

[   21.058256] usbcore: registered new interface driver r8152

[   21.112562] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: renamed from eth0

[   24.514258] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: carrier on

[ 1528.229637] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: Stop submitting intr, status -71

[ 1528.365081] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: USB disconnect, device number 6

[ 1532.777666] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 11 using xhci_hcd

[ 1533.022244] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 eth0: v1.12.13

[ 1533.048589] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: renamed from eth0

[ 1536.493350] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: carrier on

[ 1694.788996] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: Stop submitting intr, status -71

[ 1694.897762] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: USB disconnect, device number 11

[ 1699.338668] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 16 using xhci_hcd

[ 1699.576989] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 eth0: v1.12.13

[ 1699.604697] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: renamed from eth0

[ 1703.054952] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: carrier on

Nažalost kako stvari stoje, taj Realtek je na Linuxu shitshow.

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198931

Osim druge mrežne koja radi na Linuxu (USB?) mi nažalost ne pada nijedna pametna trenutno...možda netko od ekipe ima nekaj pametnog za reći....

tomek@vz

11.07.2025. 14:36

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Immutable distributions are slowly spreading across the Linux world– but should you care? Are they hacker friendly? What does “immutable” mean, anyway?
Immutable means “not subject or susceptible to change” according to Merriam-Webster, which is not 100% accurate in this context, but it’s close enough and the name is there so we’re stuck with it. Immutable distributions are subject to change, it’s just that how you change them is quite a bit dif/Bferent than bog-standard Linux. Will this matter to you? Read on to find out! (Or, if you know the answers already, read on to find out how angry you should be in the comments section.)

> Hackaday

strikoo

11.07.2025. 16:22

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Autor tomek@vz (Post 3812247)

Pronadi nesto sto provjereno radi. sve ostalo je patnja samo takva

tomek@vz

12.07.2025. 10:49

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The year is 2013 and I am hopping mad.
systemd is replacing my plaintext logs with a binary format and pumping steroids into init and it is laughing at me. The unix philosophy cries out: is this the end of Linux (or, as many are calling it, GNU plus Linux)?
The year is 2025 and I’m here to repent. Not only is systemd a worthy successor to traditional init, but I think that it deserves a defense for what it’s done for the landscape – especially given the hostile reception it initially received (and somehow continues to receive? for some reason?). No software is perfect – except for TempleOS – but I think that systemd has largely been a success story and proven many dire forecasts wrong (including my own). I was wrong!
↫ Tyler Langlois

Dule	12.07.2025. 12:41

Ne znam zašto se još uvijek promovira ideja da je systemd (samo) zamjena za klasični init. To ne može biti dalje od istine.

Code:

systemd — The main init/service manager (PID 1)

systemd-boot - UEFI boot loader

systemd-journald — Logs system messages (journal)

systemd-logind — User logins, seats, sessions

systemd-networkd — Configures and manages network interfaces

systemd-resolved — DNS resolver and name resolution

systemd-timesyncd — SNTP/NTP client for time synchronization

systemd-udevd — Manages device events (hotplugging)

systemd-hostnamed — Manages system hostname (via D-Bus)

systemd-localed — Manages locale and keyboard layout settings

systemd-timedated — Manages system clock, timezone, and NTP toggle

systemd-machined — Tracks and manages containers and VMs

systemd-homed — Portable home directories and user management

systemd-coredump — Captures and processes core dumps

systemd-oomd — Userspace out-of-memory killer

systemd-rfkill — Manages RF-kill (airplane mode) switches

systemd-pstore — Handles persistent storage of kernel crash logs

systemd-firstboot — Configures hostname/locale/timezone at first boot

systemd-sysusers — Creates system users and groups at boot

systemd-sysctl — Applies kernel sysctl parameters

systemd-tmpfiles — Manages and cleans up temporary files/directories

systemd-remount-fs — Remounts API filesystems with correct options

systemd-update-done — Marks updates as completed

systemd-backlight — Restores screen backlight brightness on boot

systemd-cryptsetup — Manages encrypted block devices

systemd-hibernate — Handles hibernate operations

systemd-suspend — Handles suspend operations

systemd-hybrid-sleep — Handles hybrid sleep

systemd-sleep — Generic suspend/hibernate management wrapper

systemd-quotacheck — Checks disk quotas on boot

systemd-vconsole-setup — Configures virtual console font/keymap

systemd-repart — Automatic disk repartitioning tool

systemd-sysext — System extensions management

systemd-user-sessions — Enables/disables user logins at boot/shutdown

systemd se uguzio u svaki dio system managementa, da ne pričam da ogroman broj aplikacija dependa na libsystemd. OS bi se trebao zvati systemd/Linux umjesto GNU/Linux.

I to je ono što mene osobno smeta, monopol nad OS-om i kompleksnost (C) koda koji je teško za razumjeti za ljude koji nisu direktno uključeni u projekt. Filozofija je: Jel radi? Radi. Šuti i ne diraj.

tomek@vz

12.07.2025. 12:53

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Autor Dule (Post 3812549)

Ne znam zašto se još uvijek promovira ideja da je systemd (samo) zamjena za klasični init. To ne može biti dalje od istine.

Code:

systemd — The main init/service manager (PID 1)

systemd-boot - UEFI boot loader

systemd-journald — Logs system messages (journal)

systemd-logind — User logins, seats, sessions

systemd-networkd — Configures and manages network interfaces

systemd-resolved — DNS resolver and name resolution

systemd-timesyncd — SNTP/NTP client for time synchronization

systemd-udevd — Manages device events (hotplugging)

systemd-hostnamed — Manages system hostname (via D-Bus)

systemd-localed — Manages locale and keyboard layout settings

systemd-timedated — Manages system clock, timezone, and NTP toggle

systemd-machined — Tracks and manages containers and VMs

systemd-homed — Portable home directories and user management

systemd-coredump — Captures and processes core dumps

systemd-oomd — Userspace out-of-memory killer

systemd-rfkill — Manages RF-kill (airplane mode) switches

systemd-pstore — Handles persistent storage of kernel crash logs

systemd-firstboot — Configures hostname/locale/timezone at first boot

systemd-sysusers — Creates system users and groups at boot

systemd-sysctl — Applies kernel sysctl parameters

systemd-tmpfiles — Manages and cleans up temporary files/directories

systemd-remount-fs — Remounts API filesystems with correct options

systemd-update-done — Marks updates as completed

systemd-backlight — Restores screen backlight brightness on boot

systemd-cryptsetup — Manages encrypted block devices

systemd-hibernate — Handles hibernate operations

systemd-suspend — Handles suspend operations

systemd-hybrid-sleep — Handles hybrid sleep

systemd-sleep — Generic suspend/hibernate management wrapper

systemd-quotacheck — Checks disk quotas on boot

systemd-vconsole-setup — Configures virtual console font/keymap

systemd-repart — Automatic disk repartitioning tool

systemd-sysext — System extensions management

systemd-user-sessions — Enables/disables user logins at boot/shutdown

systemd se uguzio u svaki dio system managementa, da ne pričam da ogorman broj aplikacija dependa na libsystemd. OS bi se trebao zvati systemd/Linux umjesto GNU/Linux.

I to je ono što mene osobno smeta, monopol nad OS-om i kompleksnost (C) koda koji je teško za razumjeti za ljude koji nisu direktno uključeni u projekt. Filozofija je: Jel radi? Radi. Šuti i ne diraj.

Priprema za Microsoft Windows sa Linux kernelom :lol2:

Neo-ST

12.07.2025. 13:08

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Weak, btw.

tomek@vz

12.07.2025. 13:20

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Autor Neo-ST (Post 3812554)

Weak, btw.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ebdd7b71b7.jpg

Hype-man...

A kaj se tiče NixOS-a...čuvam posebno mjesto u podrumu uz poveci crni dildo za onoga tko je vidio postojeća provjerena (i stabilna te razumljivija riješenja tipa Autoyast, Ansible, Terraform...) i odlučio - "ne to je sve sranje", rekao "hold my beer" i izmislio nix programski jezik koji samo sa nix pakertnim managerom dolazi do izražaja. Za youtubere što svršavaju na isti sam pripremio septičku jamu :D.

c-shadow

12.07.2025. 13:21

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Autor tomek@vz (Post 3812552)

Priprema za Microsoft Windows sa Linux kernelom :lol2:

Pa onaj kreten Lennart Poettering je iz Red Hata otišao u M$ pred koju godinu :D

Cheesemassacre

12.07.2025. 15:19

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Autor Neo-ST (Post 3812554)

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Weak, btw.

Počelo je, sad će svaki tjedan skoknuti na novu distru :roller:

Dule	12.07.2025. 16:49

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Autor Cheesemassacre (Post 3812571)

Počelo je, sad će svaki tjedan skoknuti na novu distru :roller:

I na kraju će se full-circle vratiti na Arch :D Mark my words.

Bubba

13.07.2025. 12:40

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Autor tomek@vz (Post 3812463)

> Hackaday

Vidim da je momak u pametovanju prespavao zadnjih 25 godina modus operandija vecine mreznih uredjaja baziranih na Linuxu, odnosno, nesto sto je na takvom embeddedu de facto standard.

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Autor tomek@vz (Post 3812556)

A kaj se tiče NixOS-a...čuvam posebno mjesto u podrumu uz poveci crni dildo za onoga tko je vidio postojeća provjerena (i stabilna te razumljivija riješenja tipa Autoyast, Ansible, Terraform...)

One man's stabilno i razumljivo is another man's trash.

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i odlučio - "ne to je sve sranje", rekao "hold my beer" i izmislio nix programski jezik koji samo sa nix pakertnim managerom dolazi do izražaja. Za youtubere što svršavaju na isti sam pripremio septičku jamu :D.

Stari Youtuberi iz LLNL isto tako razmisljaju a oko toga se zarolao i cijeli Yout^H^H^H^H LF HPSF projekt.

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Autor c-shadow (Post 3812557)

Pa onaj kreten Lennart Poettering je iz Red Hata otišao u M$ pred koju godinu :D

Druzio sam se s njim uzivo i osim sto je potencijalno podlozan tumacenju da je drustveno... neobican, nisam stekao dojam da su on ili ekipa oko njega (Luca Boccassi i bio je jos jedan tip kojemu sam zaboravio ime) tehnoloski kreteni.

Temeljem cega ti to tumacis?

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Autor Dule (Post 3812549)

Ne znam zašto se još uvijek promovira ideja da je systemd (samo) zamjena za klasični init. To ne može biti dalje od istine.

systemd se uguzio u svaki dio system managementa, da ne pričam da ogroman broj aplikacija dependa na libsystemd. OS bi se trebao zvati systemd/Linux umjesto GNU/Linux.

Svaka takva centralizacija nosi nuzno i negativne strane - doduse, isto vrijedi i za obrnutu filozofiju. Ali za Linux u okruzenju velike skale bolja stvar se nije mogla dogoditi, a za uspijeh se morala manifestirati ne neki ovakav nacin kako god da se on zvao.

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I to je ono što mene osobno smeta, monopol nad OS-om i kompleksnost (C) koda koji je teško za razumjeti za ljude koji nisu direktno uključeni u projekt. Filozofija je: Jel radi? Radi. Šuti i ne diraj.

Netko tko ima veliku kolicinu managementa na sebi ne zeli umirati u ljepoti kôda (iako moram priznati da se ne bih bas nuzno slozio da je high level kod nesto kompleksan) jednostavno treba "radi - suti - nediraj" paradigmu.

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