PC Ekspert Forum - Linux OS - info, how-to, pitanja, novosti, savjeti, problemi...

PC Ekspert Forum (https://forum.pcekspert.com/index.php)

- Operativni sustavi (https://forum.pcekspert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=36)

- - Linux OS - info, how-to, pitanja, novosti, savjeti, problemi... (https://forum.pcekspert.com/showthread.php?t=234127)

Citiraj:

The Linux kernel has become such an integral, core part of pretty much all aspects of the technology world, and corporate contributions to the kernel make up such a huge chunk of the kernel’s ongoing development, it’s easy to forget that some parts of the kernel are still maintained by some lone person in Jacksonville, Nebraska, or whatever. Sadly, we were reminded of this today when the sole maintainer of a few DRM (no, not the bad kind) announced he can no longer maintain the gud, mi0283qt, panel-mipi-dbi, and repaper drivers.

Remove myself as maintainer for gud, mi0283qt, panel-mipi-dbi and repaper. My fatigue illness has finally closed the door on doing development of even moderate complexity so it’s sad to let this go.

↫ Noralf Trřnnes
There must be quite a few obscure parts of the Linux kernel that are of no interest to the corporate world, and thus remain maintained by individuals in their free time, out of some personal need or perhaps a sense of duty. If one such person gives up their role as maintainer, for whatever reason, you better hope it’s not something your workflow relies, because if no new maintainer is found, you will eventually run into trouble.

Ovo je samo DRM USB driver za vanjski display (ugrubo). Ali - pokazuje da ona pretpostavka da je prednost Linuxa baš da mnogi developeri rade na kodu na projektima i da je zato kod sigurniji i kvalitetniji. Za većinu OSS softwera možda to i je tako no ako ne gledamo korporativno podržani svijet bojim se da je malo više ovakvih malih projekata na kojem radi jedan dev i ako ga netko ne preuzme - stvar propada. To je loše.

Citiraj:

Facebook flags Linux topics as 'cybersecurity threats' — posts and users being blocked

https://www.tomshardware.com/softwar...-being-blocked

https://boingboing.net/2025/01/27/fa...y-threats.html

AI Feature - garant :lol2:

Ma FB su retardi.
Neki dan žena hoće dati oglas (plaćeni) i oni joj vele pošto si odabrala da ti prikazujemo manje oglasa, ne možeš se oglašavati, promijeni to.
Jedva našli gdje je to i onda 3 kompa na različitim browserima veli da da je došlo do pogreške kada to probamo uključiti. ugl smradovi i debili, korisnička podrška je vj neki AI bot pa se ti nateži sa njim ;)

Momci, ima netko iskustva sa testdisk programom i recoveryjem podataka?

Sve ok radi osim sto ne znam kako okinuti ovaj "Next" button? Odnosno jel to uopce button il to bezveze stoji tu?

Strelicom (ili page down) mogu otici skroz do dolje, ali nisam siguran da su svi podaci (folderi) izlistani, kao da se jos moze izlistat.

Pogledajte sliku pa ce vam biti jasnije na sto mislim.

Google bas i ne daje rezultate, osim ljudi koji pitaju isto sto i ja, ali nisu dobili odgovor.

Btw, pokusavam spasit podatke sa diska koji ima bad sectore. Dosta toga sam izvukao, samo me ovo jos pati. Thankshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d4322def65.jpg

Jesi probao Space?

Znam da je u većini slučajeva Space za dalje.

Nisam. Nije mi palo na pamet. Probat cu veceras.

Probao sam page up/down, ctrl+strelice i page up/down, pa shift u istoj kombinaciji, al nista ne radi.

Eh, pozaboravljalo se kako se radilo u DOS eri a prije GUI / mišonja ? :D

Vjerojatno je:
- ako si na "polju / botunu" koji treba potvrditi onda space ili Enter
- za skok sa "polja na polje" probaj Tab

Probao sam Tab i 0 bodova.

Stvar je sto se ovaj Next neda ni oznaciti (ne mozes se pozicionirat na njega), zato sam i pitao jel to ovako nesto bezveze ili postoji neki tajni shortcut 😅

Probao sam s Alt-om al isto nista.

Evo ovdje opis > https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step

Important points for using TestDisk:

To navigate in TestDisk, use the Arrow and PageUp/PageDown keys.
To proceed, confirm your choice(s) with the Enter key.
To return to a previous display or quit TestDisk, use the q (Quit) key.
To save modifications under TestDisk, you must confirm them with the y (Yes) and/or Enter keys, and
To actually write partition data to the MBR, you must choose the "Write" selection and press the Enter key.

Hvala ti, taj dio je poprilicno jasan, cak i bez uputa 🙈

Sve mi nekako zvoni da je taj "Next" tu greskom (nakon sto si vec odskrolao do kraja). Bar se nadam.

EDIT:
Problem rijesen. Problema nije ni bilo 😁

Uglavnom, slucajno sam otisao na prethodni ekran (koji nije cijel ispunjen) i tamo uredno isto stoji "Next" iako nema nikakve potrebe za njime. Bit ce dakle programerski previd, uspio sam sve fileove izvuc 😅

Ubuduce backup, backup i backup 🙊

Btw, testdisk je odlican program za restore particijskih tablica, mbr recorda i povrat podataka

https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk

Sad si dodaj u kolekciju i drugi njihov program PhotoRec > https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
iako ime vara, inicijalno rađen za spašavanje slika, za spašavanje fajlova čak kad je file sistem koruptiran.

Znam za njega, nalazi se integriran u testdisk, koristio sam ga nedavno pri prvom pokusaju recoveryja s tog diska.

Mana mu je jedino sto ne moze izvlacit fileove s njihovim pravim imenima tako da ustvari van dobijes cuspajz u nazivu zbog cega moras otvarat file po file da bi vidio sto je to.

Da, zato jer on file traži i vadi direktno sa medija bez da se oslanja na MFT / foldere.

Da. Ako nista bar ih vadi van po ekstenziji tako da ako znas sto trazis opet se moze spasit dosta tog 🙂

Citiraj:

Autor Mario92 (Post 3786748)

Linux's Sole Wireless/WiFi Driver Maintainer Is Stepping Down

Viš na , kaj sam rekel. Baš to me brine jer imam osjećaj da je van korporativnog Linux svijeta jako malo akvnih Freelancer Devova koji doprinose kodu.

Ni on nije bio "van", piše radi(o) za Qualcomm Atheros :fiju:

Citiraj:

In his post about the future of Fedora Workstation, Christian F.K. Schaller discusses how the Red Hat team plans to integrate AI with IBM's open-source Granite engine to enhance developer tools, such as IDEs, and create an AI-powered Code Assistant. He says the team is also working on streamlining AI acceleration in Toolbx and ensuring Fedora users have access to tools like RamaLama. From the post:
One big item on our list for the year is looking at ways Fedora Workstation can make use of artificial intelligence. Thanks to IBMs Granite effort we know have an AI engine that is available under proper open source licensing terms and which can be extended for many different usecases. Also the IBM Granite team has an aggressive plan for releasing updated versions of Granite, incorporating new features of special interest to developers, like making Granite a great engine to power IDEs and similar tools. We been brainstorming various ideas in the team for how we can make use of AI to provide improved or new features to users of GNOME and Fedora Workstation. This includes making sure Fedora Workstation users have access to great tools like RamaLama, that we make sure setting up accelerated AI inside Toolbx is simple, that we offer a good Code Assistant based on Granite and that we come up with other cool integration points.

Citiraj:

A heated dispute has erupted in the Linux kernel community over the integration of Rust code, with kernel maintainer Christoph Hellwig likening multiple programming languages to "cancer" for the project's maintainability. The conflict centers on a proposed patch enabling Rust-written device drivers to access the kernel's DMA API, which Hellwig strongly opposed. While the dispute isn't about Rust itself, Hellwig argues that maintaining cross-language codebases severely compromises Linux's integrated nature. From a report: "Don't force me to deal with your shiny language of the day," he [Hellwig] wrote. "Maintaining multi-language projects is a pain I have no interest in dealing with. If you want to use something that's not C, be that assembly or Rust, you write to C interfaces and deal with the impedance mismatch yourself as far as I'm concerned." This resistance follows the September departure of Microsoft engineer Wedson Almeida Filho from the Rust for Linux project, citing "nontechnical nonsense."

po meni je to dobro rečeno.
Ne bih ga ni ja ubaciva u kernel, upravo zato jer je new shiny thing.

Apsolutno. Taj dio bi trebao ostati van kernela. API imaju pa nek izvole pazit.

Nije dugo trebalo :kafa:

Citiraj:

Weighing in on yet another Linux kernel spat - this time over Rust device drivers - Linux supremo Linus Torvalds has shot the messenger.
In response to Asahi Linux lead developer Hector Martin's call for Torvalds to "pipe up with an authoritative answer" to resolve the device driver impasse, and Martin's defense of "shaming on social media" as a way to counter the hostility of Linux maintainers to Rust code, Torvalds dismissed the approach and took aim at Martin.
"How about you accept the fact that maybe the problem is you," said Torvalds, who several years ago acknowledged his own difficulty with diplomatic online interaction. "You think you know better. But the current process works.
"It has problems, but problems are a fact of life. There is no perfect.

"However, I will say that the social media brigading just makes me not want to have anything at all to do with your approach.
"Because if we have issues in the kernel development model, then social media sure as hell isn't the solution. The same way it sure as hell wasn't the solution to politics.
"Technical patches and discussions matter. Social media brigading - no thank you."

https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/...s_rust_driver/

Citiraj:

Does the 'Spirit' of Open Source Mean Much More Than a License?

"Open source can be something of an illusion," writes TechCrunch. "A lack of real independence can mean a lack of agency for those who would like to properly get involved in a project."
Their article makes the case that the "spirit" of open source means more than a license... "Android, in a license sense, is perhaps the most well-documented, perfectly open 'thing' that there is," Luis Villa, co-founder and general counsel at Tidelift, said in a panel discussion at the State of Open Con25 in London this week. "All the licenses are exactly as you want them — but good luck getting a patch into that, and good luck figuring out when the next release even is...."

"If you think about the practical accessibility of open source, it goes beyond the license, right?" Peter Zaitsev, founder of open source database services company Percona, said in the panel discussion. "Governance is very important, because if it's a single corporation, they can change a license like 'that.'" These sentiments were echoed in a separate talk by Dotan Horovits, open source evangelist at the Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF), where he mused about open source "turning to the dark side." He noted that in most cases, issues arise when a single-vendor project decides to make changes based on its own business needs among other pressures. "Which begs the question, is vendor-owned open source an oxymoron?" Horovits said. "I've been asking this question for a good few years, and in 2025 this question is more relevant than ever."
The article adds that in 2025, "These debates won't be going anywhere anytime soon, as open source has emerged as a major focal point in the AI realm." And it includes this quote from Tidelift's co-founder.

"I have my quibbles and concerns about the open source AI definition, but it's really clear that what Llama is doing isn't open source," Villa said. Emily Omier, a consultant for open source businesses and host of the Business of Open Source podcast, added that such attempts to "corrupt" the meaning behind "open source" is testament to its inherent power.

Much of this may be for regulatory reasons, however. The EU AI Act has a special carve-out for "free and open source" AI systems (aside from those deemed to pose an "unacceptable risk"). And Villa says this goes some way toward explaining why a company might want to rewrite the rulebook on what "open source" actually means. "There are plenty of actors right now who, because of the brand equity [of open source] and the regulatory implications, want to change the definition, and that's terrible," Villa said.

Citiraj:

A years-long legal battle has quietly escalated into what could become the defining moment for the future of GPLv3, with implications that could reshape software freedom as we know it.

At issue is whether licensors have the power to impose 'further restrictions' on open-source software, potentially undermining the explicit rights granted to users and developers under AGPLv3, GPLv3, and LGPLv3.

The outcome of this case, now before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, could set a dangerous precedent, limiting the ability to remove proprietary restrictions from copyleft-licensed software.

With little public attention on the case, the Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC) has stepped up as a key voice in defense of user rights, filing a critical amicus brief to challenge the lower court's ruling and protect the principles of software freedom.

Citiraj:

Plasma 6.3 has been released. It brings with it a ton of improvements aimed at digital artists, such as much improved management and configuration of drawing tablets. You can now map an area of the tablet’s surface to a part of the screen, change the functions of stylus buttons, customise the pressure curve and range of a stylus, and much more. The entire settings panel for drawing tablets has also been redesigned to make it easier to find what you’re looking for.
Plasma 6.3 also completely overhauls KWin’s fraction scaling. Fractional scaling in KWin will not try to snap everything to your display’s pixel grid, to reduce blurriness and make everything look sharper. KWin’s zoom effect also makes use of these improvements, making for a pixel-perfect zoom feature with a pixel grid overlay, which is great for artists and designers. This will be a very welcome improvement for people using e.g. 125% or 150% scaling on their displays.
Hardware monitoring is much improved too, with System Monitor showing more information while using fewer resources, and KDE users on FreeBSD can now see GPU statistics too. There’s also a ton of small additions that are still quite welcome, like opening the menu editor instead of a properties dialog when clicking on Edit Application in a launcher menu’s context menu, the ability to clone panels, an option to turn of symbolic icons in Kickoff, a “Show Target” option in the context menu of symbolic links, and a lot more.

Mislim da je vrijeme da opet puknem Arch ili neki drugi bleeding edge distro na novi stroj (Lenovo LOQ 15AHP9 Ryzen 5 8645HS/RTX 4050) da vidim kolko je skaliranje u KDE u odnosu na Gnome. Na lapu , 2k reza sve izgleda dobro dok ne pokrenem wine ili nekaj van standardnog Gnome sustava. To je tolko sitno da moram doslovce uzet povecalo da ista iscitam. Opcija skaliranja fontova u winecfg ne radi bas nist.

Nadalje kad vec gundam - jel imao tko problema kad pusta mjuzu i upali nesto iole I/O intenzivno (npr. Firefox) da zvuk na sekundu nestane - i to svako malo dok aplikacija radi. Pošto je pipewire u pitanju stari trik sa tsched=0 vise ne sljaka.

Code:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14e8

00:00.2 IOMMU: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14e9

00:01.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ea

00:01.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ed

00:02.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ea

00:02.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ee

00:02.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ee

00:02.3 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ed

00:03.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ea

00:04.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ea

00:08.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ea

00:08.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14eb

00:08.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14eb

00:08.3 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14eb

00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller (rev 71)

00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH LPC Bridge (rev 51)

00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14f0

00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14f1

00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14f2

00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14f3

00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14f4

00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14f5

00:18.6 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14f6

00:18.7 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14f7

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation AD107M [GeForce RTX 4050 Max-Q / Mobile] (rev a1)

01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation AD107 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)

02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 15)

03:00.0 Network controller: MEDIATEK Corp. MT7921 802.11ax PCI Express Wireless Network Adapter

04:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Micron Technology Inc 2400 NVMe SSD (DRAM-less) (rev 03)

05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Phoenix3 (rev c6)

05:00.2 Encryption controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 19h (Model 74h) CCP/PSP 3.0 Device

05:00.3 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 15b9

05:00.4 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 15ba

05:00.5 Multimedia controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] ACP/ACP3X/ACP6x Audio Coprocessor (rev 63)

05:00.6 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h/19h HD Audio Controller

06:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ec

06:00.1 Signal processing controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] AMD IPU Device

07:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 14ec

07:00.3 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 15c0

07:00.4 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 15c1

P.S. - yep cari Desktop Linux iskustva out of the box u 2025. Mozemo vrtjeti OS u PDF fajlu ali nakon 20 godina i dalje ista ili slicna sranja sto se Desktop iskustva tice.

bome nisam imao taj problem sa zvukom, također pipewire.
jel ti možda nakratko prebaci output u neki drugi?
To je meni znala raditi stara fedora, mislim 22.

Citiraj:

Autor tomek@vz (Post 3788967)

Nadalje kad vec gundam - jel imao tko problema kad pusta mjuzu i upali nesto iole I/O intenzivno (npr. Firefox) da zvuk na sekundu nestane - i to svako malo dok aplikacija radi. Pošto je pipewire u pitanju stari trik sa tsched=0 vise ne sljaka.

Je meni nestane, Debian 12 Mate. Puštam iz FF-a mjuzu a upalim recimo Chrome ili Operu i nestane na sekundu. A i na pojačalo ide preko BT (mali adaper koji sam spominjao na drugoj temi).

Citiraj:

Autor Ivo_Strojnica (Post 3789006)

bome nisam imao taj problem sa zvukom, također pipewire.
jel ti možda nakratko prebaci output u neki drugi?
To je meni znala raditi stara fedora, mislim 22.

Nisam primjetio. Moram testirat kad uzmognem prek HDMI dal je isti problem pa test sa Fedora KDE i ak nebu pomaka sa jos par distri da vidim dal ima ikakvih pomaka. Problem sam zasad na zvucnicima lapa i preko 3.5mm out na sluskama primjetio. Na 11-ci te probleme nemam , stroj radi milina tak da nije HW problem. A najvise me od svega hebe sto nemam vise vremena za ta kemijanja i testiranja.

@spiderhr > koju konfa?

Doduše je da je stariji Lenovo
I7-4510U
6GB Rama

D12
Kernel 6.1.0-28-amd64
Mate 1.26.0

Instaliran pipewire 0.33.65-3+deb12u1

ovo daje lspci

Code:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT DRAM Controller (rev 0b)

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)

00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller (rev 0b)

00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series USB xHCI HC (rev 04)

00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series HECI #0 (rev 04)

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev 04)

00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev e4)

00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev e4)

00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 5 (rev e4)

00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series USB EHCI #1 (rev 04)

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series LPC Controller (rev 04)

00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series SATA Controller 1 [AHCI mode] (rev 04)

00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 8 Series SMBus Controller (rev 04)

01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 10)

02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 3160 (rev 93)

03:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sun LE [Radeon HD 8550M / R5 M230]

Doduše ja sam mislio da je to zbog starijeg stroja i kaj nema previše rama pa dođe blizu tih 6 gb.

Jer zna biti upaljen VSC, FF s dosta tabova i thunderbird. Pa kada lupim Chrome ili Operu za test zna prekinut.

Krivi lspci sam dao.