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BusMaster 09.07.2020. 21:05

New AMD Ryzen Threadripper CPUs Could Debut With Lenovo's Next Workstations

Link: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ne...t-workstations

BusMaster 10.07.2020. 19:54

AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3975X 32 Core CPU Spotted, Benchmarks Leak Out – At least Four Workstation Models In The Work

Link: https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-threa...nchmarks-leak/

The Exiled 14.07.2020. 21:23

AMD Announces Ryzen Threadripper Pro: Workstation Parts for OEMs Only
Citiraj:

Ryzen Threadripper Pro hardware will mirror single-socket EPYC in its features: eight memory channels up to DDR4-3200, 128 lanes of PCIe 4.0, support for RDIMMs and LRDIMMs, support for secure memory encryption, support for DASH manageability, and operating system image consistency as part of AMD’s Pro Business Ready programme. There is also a small difference in DRAM support – TR Pro supports up to 2 TB, but EPYC supports 4 TB. All of the Ryzen Threadripper Pro processors are single socket only.
Izvor: AnandTech

Manuel Calavera 20.07.2020. 16:55

EPYC je s tim skoro skroz kanibaliziran....

The Exiled 20.07.2020. 17:56

EPYC i dalje ima podršku za 4TB RAM-a i dual-socket konfiguracije, ali ovo je ionako još dodatno razvodnjeni EPYC samo za OEM ekipu, tak da se bude na kraju sve prodalo.:)

The Exiled 27.08.2020. 18:51

AMD's Zen 3 EPYC Milan processors are 10-20% faster than Zen 2 EPYC:kafa:
Citiraj:

With Zen 3, HardwareLuxx has reported that Zen 3 delivers an IPC boost of 15% in integer workloads and that AMD expects Zen 3 Milan processors to offer users a 20% performance boost when compared to Zen 2 when using 32-core EPYC models. With 64-core EPYC models, AMD expects Zen 3 to have smaller gains of 10-15%, as increased core counts will hamper AMD's ability to deliver higher clock rates with Zen 3. AMD's Zen 3 EPYC dies will feature eight cores with a unified L3 cache. This unified cache will be 32MB in size, replacing the two 16MB caches on AMD's Zen 2 EPYC/Ryzen dies. Instead of having two CCX's with four cores and 16MB of L3 cache, Zen 3 EPYC dies will feature a single 8-core CCX with 32MB of L3 cache. This change eliminates inter-CCX latencies for AMD's Zen 3 dies, which has the potential to increase Zen 3's performance in latency-sensitive workloads significantly. Beyond that, there will be fewer instances where data needs to be stored on both L3 caches, effectively increasing AMD's usable L3 cache size. With Zen 3, AMD is reportedly able to increase the clock speeds of processors with fewer cores/threads, which means that the benefits of Zen 3 will be their strongest on Ryzen and lower core count EPYC processors.
Izvor: OC3D

Disco 27.08.2020. 19:51

Opa, veće brzine za manje jezgri. Baš ubijaju sa Zen-om, nadam se da je istina. :)

The Exiled 27.08.2020. 19:57

Ne bi trebalo biti problema (bilo desktop, bilo server), a zasad im sve ide po planu, ovi postoci su prema najavama i očekivanjima.:)

BusMaster 18.12.2020. 02:03

Gigabyte’s Insanely Extreme WRX80 SU8 Motherboard For AMD Ryzen Threadripper Pro Workstation CPUs Pictured

Link: https://wccftech.com/gigabyte-wrx80-...n-cpus-leaked/


- Malo im je dugo trebalo da to izbace, ali evo napokon jedne "prave workstation ploče", sa ovim novim chipsetom.. Jedino mi se čini da je to AIB only, koliko znam ni TR Pro procovi nisu u slobodnoj prodaji..

kasko 18.12.2020. 02:52

Ima da Lewis omasti brk s ovom plocom pa nas pocasti s nekim benchmarcima :)

Immortalis 18.12.2020. 07:35

A konacno, ovo cekam 3 godine...

BusMaster 08.01.2021. 15:22

AMD 32-Core EPYC "Milan" Zen 3 CPU Fights Dual Xeon 28-Core Processors

Link: https://www.techpowerup.com/276932/a...ore-processors

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...specifications

BusMaster 13.01.2021. 14:05

AMD’s Ryzen Threadripper Pro CPUs & WRX80 Motherboards Coming To Consumer Segment in March 2021 – 64 Cores, 128 PCIe Lanes & 8-Channel Memory

Link: https://wccftech.com/amds-ryzen-thre...ch-march-2021/

Dobra vijest za "power usere" i konačna brukva u kaspsu za Intel Hedt (ako takvo nešto još postoji)..:)))

Lewis 13.01.2021. 14:09

E, TO te ja pitam, napokon workstaion ploce sa 7 slotova :).

Njamiiii

Psycho 13.01.2021. 19:13

Citiraj:

Autor Lewis (Post 3482142)
E, TO te ja pitam, napokon workstaion ploce sa 7 slotova :).

Njamiiii

Kako ces spojiti sve 3090ke na to? Riseri i tri 1.2kW napajanja? :goood:

Lewis 13.01.2021. 19:36

Ma 4 grafe su dosta, dvije u plocu (3 i 7 slot) i dvije na extenderu. 1600AX ce nahranit 3 kom 390 a ako budu bas sve 4 kom 3090 još jedno 650w je dosta :).

Mjesta u kucistu imam za 7 komada to nije problem :)

BusMaster 16.01.2021. 19:33

AMD EPYC 7543 ‘Milan’ Server CPU With 32 Zen 3 Cores & 3.7 GHz Clocks Benchmarked, Huge Single-Threaded Performance Increase

Link: https://wccftech.com/amd-epyc-7543-m...ance-increase/

Psycho 17.01.2021. 14:20

to je to sta mi treba za vCPU performance.

emilblomsky 17.01.2021. 17:28

Citiraj:

Autor Lewis (Post 3482278)
Ma 4 grafe su dosta, dvije u plocu (3 i 7 slot) i dvije na extenderu. 1600AX ce nahranit 3 kom 390 a ako budu bas sve 4 kom 3090 još jedno 650w je dosta :).

Mjesta u kucistu imam za 7 komada to nije problem :)

Gledao sam Linusa kad je spojio 2x3090 i 10900k na hx 1000,i ugasilo se računalo kad je pokrenuo Tomb Raidera! :D

Psycho 22.01.2021. 23:12

zabavno za pogledati :)
DIY Threadripper 1950X u "laptopu"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsdX...ture=emb_title

Manuel Calavera 03.02.2021. 20:09

AMD 3rd Gen EPYC Milan 7003 CPU Specifications & Prices Leaked By Dell, Flagship EPYC 7763 64 Core Chip For Under $7,000 US

Djeluje povoljno naspram prethodnih epyca i intela

BusMaster 28.02.2021. 17:05

AMD EPYC Genoa CPU Platform Detailed – Up To 96 Zen 4 Cores, 192 Threads, 12-Channel DDR5-5200, 128 PCIe Gen 5 Lanes, SP5 ‘LGA 6096’ Socket


Linkovi: https://wccftech.com/amd-epyc-genoa-...a-6096-socket/

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-epyc...lga6096-socket

... još jedan monster CPU od AMD-a..:))

The Exiled 28.02.2021. 17:10

AMD ne (pre)staje, dok se Intel istovremeno pretvara da je (kod njih i dalje) sve u najboljem redu ko u starim danima slave.:)

Lewis 28.02.2021. 17:11

Jos malo i chip ce biti ko tava za palacinke velik :D.

The Exiled 28.02.2021. 17:38

Je, ali takav jedan bude vrlo lako nudil performanse u rangu ili bolje od dual-socket Sapphire Rapids platforme, pa se onda i veličina i potrošnja brzo prihvate, jer kak god se okrene - bolje je od onoga kaj konkurencija nudi.

Intel Sapphire Rapids bude baziran na LGA-4677 platformi, a osnova budu dva slijepljena 28-core CPU-a, tako da svekupno mogu ponuditi 56-core rješenje s 400 TDP-om.

U svakom slučaju, AMD bude ponudil skoro duplo više jezgri u istom paketu s tim da je EPYC Milan zapravo ono čemu Sapphire Rapids konkurira.:)

kasko 28.02.2021. 17:52

Kolko bude cijena tog 200 konja procesora cca?

Lewis 28.02.2021. 17:56

Citiraj:

Autor kasko (Post 3497412)
Kolko bude cijena tog 200 konja procesora cca?

Manje nego Intelovih 100 konja ;).

The Exiled 28.02.2021. 17:56

Sadašnji Intel i AMD u toj kategoriji idu bez problema za kakvih 8.000 do 10.000$ po komadu za high-end modele, samo kaj AMD nudi više za te nofce.:frend:

MadBoY 28.02.2021. 19:35

Iduće godine će se s dva ta Epyca i 8 GPU-a moći napraviti server koji će biti brži u rendanju nego cijeli rack servera prije 5-6 godina :D.

Lewis 28.02.2021. 19:40

I sad se moze ubaciti 8 komada RTX 8000 i imati monster render "farmu" unutar jednog kompa AKO imas cca 65-70k USD viska :).

The Exiled 08.03.2021. 22:24

AMD to Launch 3rd Generation EPYC on March 15th: Milan with Zen 3:kafa:
Citiraj:

The launch event will feature presentations from CEO Dr. Lisa Su, CTO Mark Papermaster, GM Enterprise and Embedded Solutions (EESC) Forrest Norrod, and GM Server Business Unit Dan McNamara. Leading data center partners and customers will also make an appearance. To date we know that AMD’s Milan processor line will feature up to 64 Zen 3 cores, using a seemless transition from the Zen 2 EPYC Rome ecosystem with pin-compatible processors. Milan will also offer up to 128 PCIe lanes, eight channel memory, and dual socket configurations. If the desktop Zen 3-based processors are any measure, +19% IPC generational gains are expected with the new processor, despite main memory access likely remaining the same.
Izvor: AnandTech
EDIT:

lit 26.04.2021. 10:00

Jel netko zna one serverske matične sa puno slotova za ram jel se moraju popuniti svi slotovi da bi radilo ili može manje, a koliko manje?
Odgovor: Ne treba. Može po 4 modula po cpu.

Disco 16.07.2021. 06:09


The Exiled 16.07.2021. 13:38

U prijevodu, "jebe se AMD-u za Intel i njihov HEDT".:):D Obzirom na situaciju, dobro je da uopće izdaju nešto jače, jer nemaju apsolutno nikakvu potrebu, tj. konkurenciju.

Disco 26.07.2021. 08:40

AMD takes 60% of the workstation market with Threadripper :D

The Exiled 17.08.2021. 18:56

Citiraj:

Gigabyte leak reveals Zen 3 Threadripper CPUs codenamed 'Chagall':chears:
Citiraj:

These CPUs will max out at the same 64 Cores and 280W as Ryzen 3000 Threadripper, but feature the significantly quicker Zen 3 architecture, a recipe that is known to make the best CPUs on the market. According to the Gigabyte leak, it appears AMD is preparing two lineups for Zen 3 Threadripper. One will be dedicated towards the HEDT market, while the second is targeted towards workstation users (called Threadripper Pro), with significantly more memory channels. The HEDT chips will work on the TRX40 platform, while the workstation models will be on the WRX80 socket.
Izvor: Tom's Hardware
Citiraj:

AMD EPYC leak showcases the power of AMD's Zen 4 Genoa processors:frend:
Citiraj:

For starters, these new leaks confirm that AMD's SP5/Zen 4 EPYC processors will support DDR5 memory. Beyond that, we now know that AMD's Zen 4 EPYC processors will utilise 12 Core Chiplet Dies (CCDs) and support 12-channel memory configurations. These changes alone will give AMD's next-generation EPYC processors a major increase in CPU core count and a monumental increase in total memory bandwidth. AMD's Zen 4 architecture is also due to support AVX-512, a feature that has been missing from AMD's EPYC product line from its inception. AVX-512 support is a major advantage of Intel's Xeon lineup, so much so that it was a critical aspect of Intel's Ice Lake marketing. Bringing AVX-512 support to EPYC will hit Intel hard, as it removes one of their most marketed advantages over AMD's EPYC lineup.
Izvor: OC3D i HardwareLuxx

Dr. Strange 17.08.2021. 20:13

Rasturat će gu*ove Intelu, još uz 3d v-cache threadripper će biti zvijer.

Starsylph 18.08.2021. 04:02

Zasto je Threadripper toliko skuplji od AM4 procesora? Jel netko ima ovdje Threadrippera?

Disco 18.08.2021. 05:00

Citiraj:

Autor Starsylph (Post 3539454)
Zasto je Threadripper toliko skuplji od AM4 procesora? Jel netko ima ovdje Threadrippera?

Pa jesi npr pročitao tekst koji je stavio Exiled?
HEDT i Workstation...izguglaj si te pojmove.
U prijevodu to su ti traktori i kamioni u odnosu na aute (AM4) da ti objasnim najjednostavnije. CPU-i koji služe za rad i neisplativi su za nas kućne korisnike.

Max Rockatansky 18.08.2021. 15:51

I to neki Lamborghinijev traktor :)
U duhu Discovog primjera ... ako trebaš prevesti 7 ili više osoba onda je zgodnije uzeti neki veliki SUV/mini-bus nego napraviti dvije ili više tura nekim malim gradskim autom.
Da, Threadripperi su skupi, ali ako staviš cijelu konfiguraciju u kalkulaciju zajedno sa softverskim licencama, često ispadnu relativno jeftinije rješenje.

Neki poslovi kao npr. 3D rendering se mogu efikasno distribuirati ("distributed rendering") na više slabijih/jeftinijih konfi gdje onda jedna od njih ima ulogu "mastera" i mrežom šalje podatke (3D model) ostalima na računanje (od toga i naziv "render-slave") na kojima se vrti "bezglava" (bez GUI-ja) verzija softvera i vraća rezultat (cijelu ili dio slike) "masteru".
Teško je povući granicu ili dati neku univerzalnu formulu, ovisi o poslu, koliko se efikasno može skalirati, rokovima ... za freelancere i male firme, više manjih konfi je fleksibilnije rješenje a i na kraju radnog vijeka lakše je prodati neki "mali" Ryzen ili i7/i9 nego dual-CPU Xeon ili Threadripper.
Primjer iz prakse ... jedan R9 3900X je 20% brži od dual-CPU Xeona (2x E5-2350, 20c/40t) a Threadripper 3970X 3 puta (300%) pa se starog Xeona više ne isplati ni paliti.

Da ne spammam dalje temu, ukratko, TRiperi su odlični i koliko god na prvu čudno zvučalo nisu ni toliko skupi. Nažalost, zbog nedostatka konkurencije, novi (Chagall) će vjerojatno biti skuplji.


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