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Brko	08.03.2018. 20:25

Napil sam se vako i nako danas :) na karminama. Posvećujem karmine McLarenu. 5 i pol godina bez pobjede, 10 godina bez vozačkog i 20 bez momčadskog naslova. :D idemo dalje... još barem 3 godine do prve pobjede, 6 do naslova WDC i jedno 10 do momčadskog. I to samo ako pravila budu po McLarenovom konceptu.

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Gabre

09.03.2018. 05:00

zanimljiv lik, vrlo potkovan znanjem iz F1, posto je i radio kod mclarena godinama kao mehanicar...
na 11:20 je otkrio vrlo zanimljiv trac

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfj3C_I5lbM&t=752s

Blue_Fatal1ty

09.03.2018. 06:35

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Autor Gabre (Post 3171981)

zanimljiv lik, vrlo potkovan znanjem iz F1, posto je i radio kod mclarena godinama kao mehanicar...
na 11:20 je otkrio vrlo zanimljiv trac

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfj3C_I5lbM&t=752s

definitivno :D

GoGzS

09.03.2018. 09:58

>09:53 Alonso's stopped!

Muko moja, predji na drugoga.

HCS	09.03.2018. 10:01

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Autor GoGzS (Post 3172035)

>09:53 Alonso's stopped!

Muko moja, predji na drugoga.

Opet ulje, hvala i dovidenja za danas. :chears:

nub	09.03.2018. 10:54

Polako se kristalizira tko je bio odgovoran za fušeraj zadnje 3 sezone :roller:

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Autor Gabre (Post 3171981)

zanimljiv lik, vrlo potkovan znanjem iz F1, posto je i radio kod mclarena godinama kao mehanicar...
na 11:20 je otkrio vrlo zanimljiv trac

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfj3C_I5lbM&t=752s

Honda vozi u safe modu, mučki mijenjaju motor svake noći, mhm :D. Hajde dobro, čekamo australiju, do tad sve igra.

SRV	09.03.2018. 11:50

Dakle nije bilo do Honde nego do McLarena. Kladim se da su imali previse draga i downforce-a, te da su zato bili prespori na pravcima.

McLaren ce opet bit na zacelju, bolji jedino od Saubera.

nub	09.03.2018. 12:01

Vidjet ćemo. Goli motor i krilca nisu jedine komponente bolida...

SRV	09.03.2018. 12:06

Previse pricaju kako imaju najbolju sasiju na gridu. Nemaju.

SRV	09.03.2018. 12:58

https://image.ibb.co/egOnXn/f1_test.png

Evo upravo u ovom trenutku. TR treci sa 91 krugom. Na medium gumama. Rookie vozi.

Brko	09.03.2018. 13:37

Svejedno mislim da će McLaren biti bolji ove nego prošle sezone.
No biti će i Toro Rosso bolji ove nego prošle sezone :D

Svaka čast Hondi. No ponavljam, nemojte se zavaravati misleći da je lani Honda imala pristojan i pouzdan motor i da je McLaren bio kriv za failove.

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explorer 4

09.03.2018. 13:48

Zašto se mi zavaravamo, a ti primjerice ne? Polako, idemo vidjet što donosi prvenstvo.

Za sada imamo dvije nepobitne činjenice s testiranja - McLaren je u problemima s drugim dobavljačem motora, a Toro Rosso niže krugove s Hondom bez ikakvih problema.

SRV	09.03.2018. 13:54

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Autor Drug Brko (Post 3172148)

Sve sam vise misljenja da je McLaren bio kriv pa cak i za mnoge probleme za motorom. Al definitivno nije ono "mi imamo najbolju sasiju i najlosiji motor na gridu".

GoGzS

09.03.2018. 14:09

Honda je prosle godine bio odron od motora, al ispada da problem lezi u "mi imamo najbolju sasiju, ugradite motor u nju".

Sad kad je motor off the shelf i mora se McLaren prilagodit, ispada da to neznaju. Tragicno... bas me zanima kolko ce jos Alonso trpit ove pizdarije.

SRV	09.03.2018. 14:24

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Autor GoGzS (Post 3172168)

Ma nije tako bilo. Kad je McLaren pitao Hondu moze li napraviti sto manji motor, oni su rekli da mogu, ali to je stvar japanskog ponosa.

Brko	09.03.2018. 14:43

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Autor explorer 4 (Post 3172155)

Možda zato što je Honda PRIZNALA da je motor loš, slab i nepouzdan?
Možda zato jer su u 20 utrka potrošili 12 motora po bolidu?
Možda zato jer je na pravcu bila sporija i po 20 kmh?
Možda zato što je tako slaba downtuneana trošila više od ostalih motora?
Možda zato što je ostajala bez ulja u zavojima zahvaljujući svom naprednom dizajnu?

Zato se ja ne zavaravam, a za vas neke ne znam. Mislim, jasno ti je da to u Toro Rossu i lani u McLarenu nije ISTI motor :) ?

A i vidi se i razlika između Works i Customer ekipe. Ako je McLaren bio Works ekipa, znači da Honda nije mogla napraviti motor prema McLarenovim željama. McLarenove želje nisu bile očito skroz točne. A komunikacija inženjera je bila "niti vidim niti čujem".

To je bilo lani. Što je bilo bilo je. A ove godine ćemo vidjeti. Da ponovimo, 3 motora tijekom sezone. Sretno svima s time.

Honda je očito odradila nešto. Vidjeti ćemo što.
McLaren ima kenjaža na testu ali opet manje nego lani.

Šasija sigurno nije najbolja na gridu... od 2008 na ovamo to nije nikad ni bila.

No svejedno se nadam i mislim da će biti best of the rest sa nabrijanim Alonsom, iza ove trojke Mečka-Ferkan-RBR.

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Blue_Fatal1ty

09.03.2018. 15:23

Testovi ne govore nista. Osim da mclaren ima sam sa sobom problema.
Ako honda nije mogla u 3 godine napravit motor nece ga moc definitivno ni sad. Sjetite se da su cak i uspjeli zavrsit par zadnjih utrka, ali s kakvim performansama.
Nije niko doso ganjat rekord staze na testovima. Dosli su testirat. Prva trka ce pokazat rezultate.
Misljenja sam da nit ce tr radit kak treba, a bogami ni mclaren.
Stanje ce se popravljat kak ce sezona odmicat.

Max_Damage

09.03.2018. 15:41

@wtf1official: Another unfortunate pitstop for McLaren in testing 😳 #F1testing
🎥: Martijn Joustra https://twitter.com/wtf1official/sta...100288/video/1

Jbg događa se :)

Brko	09.03.2018. 15:44

I eto ti kak se sjebe motor i tank ulja... kakav šlamperaj :D

Btw, danas je rikno Turbo na Alonsovom bolidu.

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HCS	09.03.2018. 16:00

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Autor Max_Damage (Post 3172216)

@wtf1official: Another unfortunate pitstop for McLaren in testing 😳 #F1testing
🎥: Martijn Joustra https://twitter.com/wtf1official/sta...100288/video/1

Jbg događa se :)

https://media.giphy.com/media/ScZzMlETdv9mg/giphy.gif

:care::care::roller::roller::roller:

Gabre

09.03.2018. 16:42

alonso negdje mora biti bjesan ko pas, prvi krug po izlasku na stazu odmah 1:19 :D

ajde da nakupe krugova, ali zaista su postali sprdnja na gridu.

u isto vrijeme, Gasly i Hartley (iskreno cu za njih navijati ove sezone) voze jako dobro i rundaju krugove ovih dana bez stucavica i trzavica.

SRV	09.03.2018. 17:00

Kao da imaju Mercedes motor, a ne Hondu.

Gabre

09.03.2018. 17:46

kazem je, Alonso nabrijan,

11:42
Alonso sends the crowd (if it can be called that) into raptures with a late 1m17.981s effort on hypersofts. It puts him second ahead of Sainz.

11:45
Another improvement by Alonso - a 1m17.784s. Drama in Spain as we enter the final 15 minutes.

Brko	09.03.2018. 17:59

Sad da ga i natakne o zid, ko ga jebe :D

BTW:

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The team's switch from Honda to Renault power this year has not got off to the start it had hoped for, with wheelnut, cooling, battery and turbo problems having cost McLaren valuable running.

Fernando Alonso's final day of testing on Friday was hit early on when he stopped with a turbo problem and McLaren elected to change engines in a bid to get him back on track as quickly as possible.

But despite failing to hit its mileage targets for the two Barcelona tests, and admitting that some issues have come from it pushing its packaging to the limits, racing director Eric Boullier does not think McLaren has made a major error.

"We want to be competitive and we are ambitious," he said. "We have an ambitious design around the car and you can see that the car is a little bit different from the other Renault-engined cars.

"So far we had minor issues but I think that was because we didn't do a good enough job to prepare the car.

"We were a little bit stretched in terms of lead time and delay - but these are our issues. Very quickly we are going to get back to normal."

When asked if McLaren should have been more conservative, he replied: "Again, if you want to be competitive you have to be a bit aggressive and ambitious.

"Is it too much? I don't think so.

"We just have to make sure we, in this strategy, leave us enough time to do everything. That's the only point, I would say."

Boullier did confess that the stoppages McLaren has suffered in testing mean he cannot guarantee the team will be on top of its reliability issues by the Australian Grand Prix.

"Not 100% because we have not run as much as we wanted, so there will be a higher risk of failure somewhere," he said.

"Nevertheless we had only minor issues which were all different. A good rebuild of the car for Australia will help us to fix a few issues."

McLaren's reliability woes have prompted some to suggest it is not as ready for a step up the grid as it had hoped for. But Boullier thinks it is far too early to write its hopes off.

"Let's wait and see," he said. "If you judge based on a few issues on three days, it is better to wait a few races.

"There was a decision made [to join Honda] before I arrived in McLaren.

"The last three years was a difficult context and now we are trying to get McLaren back where it should be.

"Like anything you don't do it in one day and there are maybe a few glitches.

"We have not lost our capability of designing fast cars and I hope you will see it on track soon."

Gabre

09.03.2018. 18:16

ajme kako sere kvake.

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"So far we had minor issues but I think that was because we didn't do a good enough job to prepare the car.

pa jebem te mutava, nije mclaren rookie momcad pa da ima takve debilne probleme. Ko da su drzavna firma pa koga briga, rijesit ce se.

A za kraj dana i testiranja, Alonso popravio dojam Mclarena. Cak je opalio krug 1:16.7, ali je presjekao negdje sikanu malo vise nego je trebao pa mu ponistili krug. Ali Williams... sto su oni napravili od te momcadi to su drame. Uvjerljivo najslabiji do sada na ovim testiranjima, najsporiji.

Mercedes odradio 1000 krugova. Tako se to radi, pouzdano, bez gluposti, trzavica, i zato se prvenstva osvajaju. A ne da se odustaje zbog labavih kopci, ne zasarafljenog kotaca, itd.

1	Raikkonen	https://d3qmgl49lqmtd9.cloudfront.ne...d2/ferrari.png	Ferrari	1m17.221s
2	Alonso	https://d3qmgl49lqmtd9.cloudfront.ne...d2/mclaren.png	McLaren	1m17.784s
3	Sainz	https://d3qmgl49lqmtd9.cloudfront.ne...d2/renault.png	Renault	1m18.092s
4	Ricciardo	https://d3qmgl49lqmtd9.cloudfront.ne...d2/redbull.png	Red Bull	1m18.327s
5	Grosjean	https://d3qmgl49lqmtd9.cloudfront.ne...t18d2/haas.png	Haas	1m18.412s
6	Bottas	https://d3qmgl49lqmtd9.cloudfront.ne...2/mercedes.png	Mercedes	1m18.825s
7	Hartley	https://d3qmgl49lqmtd9.cloudfront.ne.../tororosso.png	Toro Rosso	1m18.949s
8	Ocon	https://d3qmgl49lqmtd9.cloudfront.ne...forceindia.png	Force India	1m18.967s
9	Leclerc	https://d3qmgl49lqmtd9.cloudfront.ne...8d2/sauber.png	Sauber	1m19.118s
10	Sirotkin	https://d3qmgl49lqmtd9.cloudfront.ne...2/williams.png	Williams	1m19.189s
11	Hamilton	https://d3qmgl49lqmtd9.cloudfront.ne...2/mercedes.png	Mercedes	1m19.464s
12	Stroll	https://d3qmgl49lqmtd9.cloudfront.ne...2/williams.png	Williams	1m19.954s

aski	10.03.2018. 10:09

Ferrari ima neku foru kad se doda gas na izlasku iz sporijih zavoja da se cuje jebeni zvuk.
Uz to, imaju neki "ispuh" ispod auspuha iz kojega se povremeno vidi dim. Mozda je rijec o tome da se motor oslobađa viska topline ili neke prljavstine koju stvara.
Takoder ima i neke rekao bih LED-ice ispod zadnjih osovine.

Evo videa:
https://youtu.be/UW91_eqQRR0

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Brko	10.03.2018. 12:13

Ed Straw (jedan od malo pametnijih ljudi na svijetu što se F1 tiče) kaže sljedeće:

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Raw pace
1 Ferrari 1m17.182s (hypersoft)
2 McLaren 1m17.784s (hypersoft)
3 Red Bull 1m18.047s (hypersoft)
4 Renault 1m18.092s (hypersoft)
5 Haas 1m18.360s (supersoft)
6 Toro Rosso 1m18.363s (hypersoft)
7 Mercedes 1m18.400s (ultrasoft)
8 Force India 1m18.967s (hypersoft)
9 Sauber 1m19.118s (hypersoft)
10 Williams 1m19.189s (soft)

Ali, malo zabrinjavajuće za sezonu je:

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It's clear Ferrari has some work to do if it is to close the gap to Mercedes - a gap that, unfortunately, looks like it might have grown a little since last season.

I da ne C/P cjeli tekst, i on vidi McLaren kao best-of-the-rest nakon svetog trojstva, ako se manimo problema koje su imali na testu.
Sauberu i Toro Rossu predviđa borbu za mrvice, sa cca 2 do 2,7 sekunde zaostatka za Mercedesom.

Jebemti, još 2 tjedna, ko bu to dočekal :D

Max_Damage

10.03.2018. 13:06

A kaj je najveća fora, kad bu napokon došla utrka, onda bu boring fest bez pretjecanja i poredak ez južual Merc-RB/Ferr tak da me tak ne hvata fivr kao prije..

Speedbreaker

10.03.2018. 13:52

Prema španjolskim i francuskim medijima, Newey napušta mjesto tehničkog direktora u Red Bullu.
Nasljednik je Pierre Waché. Sad se postavlja pitanje zašto upravo sad napušta tim nakon testiranja? Nije valjda toliko loš bolid, neki ga stavljaju ispred Ferrarija u poretku...

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Google translate:
After a period of several years in which Adrian Newey has been combining his work as technical director of Red Bull with the development of Aston Martin Valkyrie, this season will take a new step back in his duties to make way for Pierre Waché.
In recent years, Newey commanded a technical team consisting of Rob Marshall, Paul Monagan and Pierre Waché. According to a publication of the newspaper L'Equipe, it will be the French engineer who will act as spearhead in the technical field with immediate effect.

Thus, the replacement of one of the best aerodynamicists in the history of Formula 1 has been ambitious for the future. "I measure what this position represents and the inherent risk. I would not say it scares me, but I know the obligation of results that it imposes. I want to show that I am capable of doing it, "said Pierre Waché.

It was Newey himself who proposed the Gaul as his successor, according to Waché himself. Regarding its future objectives, it will try to optimize the performance of the tires and link the aerodynamics with the floor of the car.

dean225

11.03.2018. 11:15

Sve su se momčadi dosta razvile jedino je prednost mercedesa ostala oko 1s po krugu. :lol2:

Vjerujem da je onaj boost u kvalifikacijama nestao, ali u utrci će mercedes biti prejak.

Svejedno, jedva čekam početak nove sezone. :fiju:

Sva vremena su GMT +2. Sada je 14:31.

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