Mah,nisam niti planirao tako skoro nista mijenjat,osim mozda graficke,nego kazem,ploca od 1.5k kn stara par mjeseci na kraju ispada nesposobna nositi se sa procesorima za koje je predvidena (barem u smislu OC-a) dok na skoro upola jeftinijoj ploci taj isti procesor leti kao na krilima. Dok ja dodem do toga da mi je konfa preslaba,najvjerovatnije ce izaci socket AM10 i chipset 1790xxx :)

et zašto ja nikad ne kupujem high end komponente.
Najbrže im padne vrijednost :)

Ako ti nužno ne treba nešto najnovije i najbrže zbog prirode posla, najbolje je kupovati po sistemu zlatne sredine :)

Phenom 9950 Black Edition i ECS A790GXM-A, te Albatron KI780G AM2+ ploča
 

Phenom 9950

Consumers have been able to purchase a Phenom X4 9950 processor for a couple of weeks now. The 9950 comes in two models, the regular version and a BE version, which is the Black Edition. So the BE editions in essence are the 'regular' processor, yet they passed quality and analysis for better overclocking performance and have their multiplier unlocked. The Phenom X4 9950 BE is the cream of the crop processor of the quad-core product line, it runs at 2600 MHz on all four cores with a multiplier of 13. But really, it doesn't mind 3000 or 3200 MHz either. The die size of the CPU is 285 mm² and for whatever reason we always like to know the CPU has 450 million transistors. The processors are manufactured in AMD's Dresden plant and make use of AMD's 65 nm SOI-fabrication.

http://www.pohrani.com/t/2Q/Tt/3oDSwslF/image.jpg

Voltages for the cores and memory controllers can be set independently from each other on Socket AM2+, which in the end has everything to do with power consumption. With socket AM2+ you'll also be able to make use of DDR2-1066 MHz memory, while on socket AM2 you'll be limited towards 800 MHz. Each core can be clocked down independently if not utilized, saving heaps of current. There's also a new status called C1E (check in the BIOS). If the processors are temporarily inactive, they can pretty much put themselves in sleep-mode (clocking down).

ECS A790GXM-A

This ECS mainboard comes with 2 PCI, 2 PCIe x16 (either 1 x PCIe x16 or 2 x PCIe x 8 for CrossFireX) 2 PCIe x1 slots. The board incorporates 2x Realtek Ethernet (RTL 8111C) and Realtek ALC 888S 8-channel HD audio. First impression, pretty decent design. A passive copper cooler sits on ECS Elitegroup A790GXM-A north-bridge and black heatspreaders on its power circuitry (MOSFETS). Also located there is a 128 MB memory module of DDR3-1333 memory. This mainboiard also support S-ATA RAID with Six S-ATA II ports with up to 300MB/s from chipset with RAID 0,1,0+1,5 support. Though it's fake-raid (CPU based). The 790GX incorporates four power-saving improvements that you supposedly don't have on the 780G boards:

• A deep sleep on the side-port memory, yielding up to 1.7 W of savings.
• Driver and BIOS enhancements made to AMD’s PowerPlay technology -- save up to 3.1 W as well.
• Onboard voltage scaling -- another 900 mW
• Support for the C1e power state approaches 6 W of savings.

http://www.pohrani.com/t/x/13P/3wFX7dc3/amd-01.jpg]

Albatron KI780G

Albatron Technology has announced the KI780G Mini-ITX mainboard featuring the AMD 780G chipset, claiming the top-dog spot in the Mini-ITX market. This Mini-ITX board’s most distinguishing feature is the AM2+ socket and support for powerful 4-core, 3-core AMD Phenom processors. The KI780G is able to handle up to 65W processors. Another nice feature on this board is 128MB side-port DDR2 memory dedicated for use with the VGA card, increasing 3D performance by 10% and eliminating the need for the graphics system to borrow shared system memory.

http://www.pohrani.com/t/3r/7X/3r0724zv/amd-02.jpg

Izvor: Guru3D i OCWorkbench

Eto, stigla je ASRock 790gx u HR.


ASRock AOD790GX, Protis

718,95 kn...


Ima ju na cjeniku i diskont 24, samo malo skuplje

Slično kao što sam i očekivao, skoro 200kn jeftinija od Gigabyte DS4H :)

Ali je i skuplja od Biostarki

Ali je i bolje opremljena - ima duplo više sideport memorije (128), 2 usb-a više na back panelu (6), firewire i jedan PCI slot više (3). Pošto dosta toga spajam na komp sva ova navedena oprema izuzev side port memorije mi je dosta bitna

jedina mana ASRockici je AMI BIOS :D

Biostar N750 AM2+ ploča
 

The CPU is fed its power through a 4 phase solid state voltage regulation system. The iron core chokes have been replaced with ferrite core chokes and copper capacitors are used rather than electrolyte, allowing for a cooler running and more stable voltage flow. Biostar provides you with two SLi bridge connectors, but to be honest we aren’t sure why you would need two; the 750a doesn’t support tri or quad SLi, so one SLi connector is really enough. Since the board doesn’t have any S/PDIF outputs on the rear I/O panel, Biostar has provided an expansion cover bracket with RCA and Toslink S/PDIF audio output. While not having native HDMI, you are provided with a DVI-I to HDMI converter so you can still use HDMI if you want to connect the onboard GPU to any HDMI receiver devices. Since the 750a is Hybrid SLi compatible, it has a built in GeForce 8300 GPU and Biostar has elected to support the IGP as well as Hybrid power and Hybrid SLi.

http://www.pohrani.com/t/2C/g0/4dxzSyvR/btf750l8.jpg

Izvor: TweakTown

:goood: Mislim da ću ovo veliku đubretaru zamjenit malim fino kompaktnim računalom čija će baza biti upravo ova ploča :D ( sry na spamu McG )

Procesori bazirani na Kuma jezgri postaju modeli Athlon X2 7000 serije
 

AMD is going to pick up the Kuma core. Back in September we have review a ES version Kuma. At that time we think the Kuma will become Athlon 6500+. But no words in AMD’s September roadmap about Kuma, we think AMD have drop it. But when we saw the AMD October roadmap, Kuma appears and branded “Athlon X2 7550/7750”. According to the roadmap, Athlon X2 7550 will be a 2.5GHz Kuma, except the clock all other spec is the same with our ES version. Athlon X2 7750 runs at 2.7GHz. For cache,TDP and other information, you can read the chart we compiled. So there is no more Athlon 6500+, AMD want Kuma to be 7 series dual core. Both of the chip will come out in 09Q1. The company positioned Kuma to encounter intel E7400 and E7300.

Izvor: Expreview

nVidia MCP82 chipseti za AM2(+) i AM3 procesore
 

MCP82 is a Performance/Enthusiast segment chipset, supporting the upcoming AMD AM3 CPU. (also AM2+ and AM2 is supported). It is a IGP chipset with graphic core built inside, supporting Hybrid SLi and CUDA applications. Currently we only have limited information about the chipset, the only spec we gathered is in the chart. The chipset is foot-print compatible with MCP72, so we can expect mobo coming out with similar design. Sample chipsets have been already sent to NV partners, and final revision of the chip will enter mass production stage in January 2009.

http://www.pohrani.com/t/v/cd/4o4G9wEC/mcp82.jpg

Izvor: Expreview

AMD 6500+ je došao kod nas...
764 kn u nitelu...

http://www.nabava.net/trazilica.php?q=AMD+6500&x=0&y=0

Valjda će cijena pasti narednih tjedana...

AMD Phenom X4 9950 BE processor tested
 

Bogme, ovo ne izgleda loše:)

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-ph...essor-tested/1

Nije loše, samo je TDP malo visok tako da ga ne možeš staviti na baš svaku ploču.

Zato je tu Asrock AOD790GX/128M. Vjerojatno moja iduća ploča.
http://my.ocworkbench.com/2008/asroc...GX-128M/b9.htm

Bez uvrede, ali ja Asrock ne bih nikada stavio u vlastiti komp koji ću koristiti svakodnevno. Rijetko koja njihova ploča je bila izuzetno stabilna i klokabilna, a ni AMI BIOS nije bogat raznim opcijama za podešavanje svega i svačega.

Nije mjesto za raspravu ali ja vozim već par godina Asrock 24/7 (Torrenti, internet, COD2 i COD4, The Witcher, Spore, obrada videa, digitalna satelitska, analogna i digitalna TV) i mogu reći samo riječi hvale.

Ovo u IDLE-u, konacno da lici na neke normalne brojke :fiju:
Ali ode nebu pod oblake na drugoj strani :(

Imam desetke servera baziranih na najjeftinijim Asrock plocama i svi rade mjesecima bez ikakvih problema...

Tebe je nesto konkretno zasmetalo na odredjenom modelu "pri svakodnevnom radu" ili trabunjas bezveze?

@Bubba, kaj se čudiš, ako nema u nazivu riječi poput Lan Party, De Luxe, Fatality, R.O.G. ili sl. - ne valja :D

90% sam siguran da je ova ASRockica 790gx i moja slijedeća ploča.

Ne patim za imenima i skupim pločama, već za najboljim omjerom cijene i performansi, ova se čini idealnom u toj kategoriji. Uostalom, vrlo često se pokaže da su jeftinije i jednostavnije ploče puno stabilnije od skupih ploča, nakrcanih hrpom nepotrebnih opcija i fičra.

:goood:

ECS A780GM-A Ultra AM2+ ploča bazirana na 780G+SB750 chipsetu
 

The latest ECS Black Series A780GM-A Ultra is based on the AMD 780G chipset with onboard ATi graphics from AMD with 160W (OC) Phenom processor (Socket AM2+) support. The A780GM-A Ultra has an integrated ATi Radeon HD3200 graphics IGP, which includes AMD Hybrid CrossfireX technology and DirectX 10 capabilities. In addition the motherboard features convenient Multimedia HDMI capabilities, while supporting 6x Sata ports, with RAID 0, 0+1, & 5 configurations, an E-SATA connector for convenient streaming of various media sources and other peripherals can be connected via the 2x PCI-E x1, 3 PCI as well as a RealTek ALC888 7.1CH High Definition audio, Gigabit Lan and proprietary ECS BIOS tweaking through the M.I.B Overclocking utility. All-in-all the perfect companion for a complete media center or HTPC system.

http://www.pohrani.com/t/2n/xV/A0uPsJO/amd-01.jpg

Izvor: ECS

:dobar:

prva liga ploca... dobar layout... ima sve sto ce (nad)prosjecnom korisniku ikad trebat... a sigurno ce bit i jeftina :D

rijec je o 780G + SB750 konbinaciji... dakle ploca podrzava i ACC ;)

jedino sto je ponuda high-end ecs ploca kod nas uvijek bila nikakva. mogao se kupiti samo zadnji srot na kojem je i izgradio reputaciju kakvu vec ima kod vecine nasih ljudi

asrock ploče su u većini dobre, jednostavne, rjetko mi se desilo da se smrzavala ili sl, ili radi ili ne radi odmah u početku. Sad sam uzeo jednu biostar (MBO BIOSTAR, s. AM2, TA770 A2+, AMD 770, BUS 2000 MHz, serial ATA II, RAID, 7.1 zvuk, DDR 2, 1Gbps, ATX 2) u hgspotu 469kn, prezadovoljan sam s pločom. Na oko bolje napravljena od asrocka, sve je ravno polemljeno i kondenzatori ne felšaju. To mi je stroj kod televizora sa dvbt-dvbs karticom, 2 harda, stalno radi i nikakvih problema

Kajgod, pa troši manje nego Q6600:)
Ili ti govoriš o potrošnji kad je naclockan na 3.1GHz?

Nemaju oni to. Bio sam danas pitati i kaže lik da je to "u ponudi", ali ga još ne mogu dobaviti. Malo bezveze, al ajde.

nova dfi-jeva maticna sa 790fx+sb750 dostupna na diskont24???
http://www.diskont24.com/product.php?productid=39993
ni ja nisam vjerovao :lol2: pa sam nazvao i potvrdili su da je dostupna i da ako je narucim da je dostavljaju u roku 1-2 dana

Treba pozurit sa kupovinom, ja planiram istu kupit.Jucer cijena bila 1130kn , danas 1250 kn.Za ne povjerovat, treba :Machineg:$ (citaj srusit dolar) pa ce cijene mozda pozda past malo???

Phenoma ko' u priči, nakon Nove :)

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20081104PD203.html

Sa susjednog je foruma...
Ne znam gdje da ovo stavim ali mislim da se nece nitko buniti ;)
http://www.benchmark.rs/forum/showpo...&postcount=196
Ukratko:
Deneb ES :D
4GHz
zrak
1.475v

Vidi ti malog :zdero:

Malo novosti

http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/1...er-processor-2

Phenom II X4 i mnoštvo drugih detalja oko nadolazećih arhitektura
 

Phenom II will be available in a couple of versions. The Phenom II X4 is a quad-core part initially released for the Socket-AM2+ platform but eventually it will be a Socket-AM3 part with DDR3 support. The Deneb core is a Phenom II X4 with 8MB of cache and the Propos version has a 2MB cache. Both of these cores have integrated DDR2 memory controllers, with a transition to DDR3 sometime in 2010. Caspian is a dual-core version of the 45nm Phenom II with a 2MB cache, Champlain hits in 2010 and is a quad-core Phenom II with DDR3 for the mainstream notebook market.

Geneva is a lower powered 45nm dual-core product, presumably Phenom II as well, due out in 2010 for ultra portables. AMD also revealed a bit of its 2011 roadmap, these products are based on the first new architecture since Phenom - called Bulldozer. In 2011 AMD expects to be at 32nm with its Orochi, Llano and Ontario cores. Orochi will be the new high end enthusiast desktop product with more than four cores, more than 8MB of cache and an integrated DDR3 memory controller. Remember from the server roadmap that in 2011 AMD will have 4-DDR3 memory channels on its server products so I'd expect at least a 3-channel DDR3 controller here.

Llano is the mainstream 32nm part with four cores, 4MB of cache, DDR3 memory controllers and an on-die GPU. Note that this is a delayed introduction of the first CPU/GPU fusion product, originally scheduled for 2009. AMD stated that the plans for the first CPU/GPU products got pushed back simply because the 45nm designs weren't compelling enough. The dies get small enough at 32nm that you can actually offer tangible benefits. Note that this also means that the first single-package CPU/GPU will actually come from Intel in 2009 with a Nehalem derived part and not from AMD. Finally we've got Ontario which is a very low power core based on AMD's upcoming Bobcat core. It's a dual-core product with 1MB of cache, on-die GPU and a DDR3 memory controller.
Izvor: AnandTech

Phenom II x4 940 i 920 za AM2+
Phenom II x4 945 , 925 ...... za AM3
link

Vidim da su uskladili nomenklaturu sa konkurencijom :goood:

Vrlo su zanimljivi X4 8xx serije, 45nm i pretpostavljam 4M L3. Znači, nova kategorija između Daneba i Propusa?

El može neko prvojerit kristalnu kuglu i reči kad će am3?
Unaprjed se ispričavam ako je več spomenuto negdje na threadu

Rano proljeće ... my guess. Ovisi kad će biti dostupne ploče sa DDR3 slotovima.

Al nije to ni tolko bitno. Za sad je važnije da možeš AM3 procesore (koji će navodno biti dostupni u veljači) kombinirati sa postojećim AM2+ pločama i bagatelno jeftinom DDR2.

Ja samo drzim palcheve da mi II X4 940BE (ako se tako bude zvao) bude radio sa postojecom gigabyte GA-MA790FX-DS5, iako jos nisu uspjeli napisati u Bios updateu ni da radi sa postojecim 9950 :/
btw. 125W je malo dosta TDP-a pogotovo ako se planira isprobavati dali doista ide do 4GHz? A nista, bit cemo mudriji nakon nove godine.

Gigabyte objavio koje ploče će imati podršku za AM3/AM2+ 45nm procesore.

http://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/t...teAM3ploce.jpg

Link na vijest

drugim rijecima...

SVE gigabyte AM2+ ploce... :D ukljucujuci i neke AM2 ploce (np. GA-MA74GM-S2H)...

s najnovijim bios-om... ce imati podrsku za AM3/AM2+ 45nm procesore... ;)