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Last updated : 23 Jan 2004 CONTRIBUTED BY Tha_noname
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Got something that troubles you?? dont be afraid of asking, we are here for you



Drivers for the NF7
Abit Driver page
Nvidia´s Driver page
Sil Image Drivers



Latest bioses
Rev 1.x = 2.3
Rev 2 = 2.2
Abit Flashmenu 1.3




*Raid tips (that i recommend)*
Set "EXT-P2P's Discard Time" in bios to 1ms
Make sure that the hdd´s are jumpered correct and are found in s-ata bios (and also that s-ata controller is enabled in main bios)
Make a striped raid (custom) with a block size of 32k..
Then partition the drive´s if you want to that is.. Then just format them and be sure to have a floppy with Silicon image´s .28 drivers (needed later for the winxp setup)..

Then when installing winxp, press the F6 key to load another driver (when prompted to) and then just follow the installation procedur. Then later in windows, you should install the Nforce driver package.. Found here.
Then install rest of the drivers and programs that you use/need..

My setup:
2x120gb Maxtor S-ata drive´s
EXT-P2P's Discard Time = 1ms
HDD raid block size = 32kb
Sisoft sandra 2003 = 60000+
And the time it takes for the computer to boot is 25s (counted from pressing powerbutton until it have loaded the winxp login screen)
Ps. RUNS SWEEEET :-D



*Bios Tips*

Memory timings : Go for as low timings as possible... Put your vmem voltage to 2.8v to start with and use 8-4-4-2.5 and make the timings more aggressive, step by step... Run Prime95 or Super PI between the changes...
The ultimate timings for the nforce chipset is 11-2-2-2 and you should have some "BH-5" memory to get there..




System Bios Cacheable : Disable (For better stability)
Video Ram Cacheable : Disable (For better stability)
AGP Aperture size : 128MB (For me that is sufficient)
FSB Spread Spectrum : Disable (For better stability when oc:ing)
AGP Spread Spectrum : Disable (For better stability when oc:ing)
CPU Thremal Throttling : Disable (For better stability when oc:ing)
Enhance PCI Performance : Disable (For better stability when oc)
CPU disconnect feature : Enable (For lower idle temp)


Also you can disable all the things you dont use.. for example.. if you dont use usb2 or serial ata, then disable it in bios to get more avaible resources.. perhaps you dont need some of the serial ports as com1 or com2, and u maybe have a usb scanner/printer... then u could disable LPT1 (parallell)

Examples:

IEEE1394 controller (firewire)
Comport/s
Parallell port
S-ATA controller (Boots faster without it.. that is if u dont use it)




Memory tips
If you are running single channel then u should have the memory in Dimm slot 1 (nearest the cpu, you will gain more fsb in most cases in this "slot")
If you are running Dual channel then its dimm1 and dimm3, or dimm2 and 3... (You will not get dual channel if u have memory in slot 1 and 2...)

If you are looking for the highest fsb possible then run single channel and preferably one stick... best method is to try one stick at slot1 and then try the other stick in slot 1 after some testing to see which one that oc´s highest.. if they are equal then try putting them both in slot 1 and 2.
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Q: Is there an internal diod temp sensor function on the nf7?

A: Yes there is BUT, the temperature that you get from bios and Motherboard monitor is from thermal socket sensor.. The internal sensor only works when for example the computer gets too hot and then it shutdowns the system (with a reading from the diod sensor)




Q: Instability @ 200+ fsb??!!

A: Could be many reasons for that... Mainly it is that if u are running single channel and have the memory at slot 3... (change the slot to dimm1) and you will gain better results (in most cases)
Also there is a setting called "PCI ENHANCE PERFORMANCE".. set it to disable to gain more stability...
Then again it can be too tight memory timings, maybe too low chipset or vmem voltage.. Your FSB/Mem ratio can also affect this... Try different setting.. like 3/3, 4/4, 5/5, 6/6 and see whats best for you...
And last, a good chipset cooler and a cooler to southbride will help u to gain even better results.. and secondly is the mosfets that also needs cooling for a high oc...
Could also be a bad P.S.U


Q: Random instability??!!

A: Check your bios settings first of all, then u could try and check your voltages with either pc-health in bios or with Motherboard monitor.. if your voltages are low/high or unstable, then your psu might not be sufficient..
Some recommended Power supplies:

Antec
Chieftec
Enermax
Pc Power And Cooling (Said to be the best.. Link)

Then the wattage of the psu´s is decided by how many pheriperals you have or how much you overclock.. for normal pheriperals, then a good quality 300w might be sufficient, but perhaps not when overclocking.. 430w,480w or higher is recommended depending on the quality/brand of PSU..
Very many on this forum says that the rev2.0 of the nf7 may require a higher rated psu than earlier revisions.. so try to stick with at least a 360w and higher (of a good quality brand)



Q: Is the standard NB fan sufficient for 200fsb?

A: Yes in most cases, but for higher fsb it is recommended to buy another one...
Examples:
vantec iceberg copper
Zalman Copper
TT´s Chromeorb (Need´s some modifications to fit..)
Titan Copper VGA Cooler



Q: My harddisk isn´t found when attached to Serial-ata

A: Make sure that u have set the drive to master, if the hard-drive still isn´t found... try to remove the jumper/s completely (some western digital needs this procedur)..
If you are using Serial-ata convertor.. make sure that both power connectors are used.. both the "floppy power" connector and the usual "molex"..

Another thing that could be related to this is the serial ata adapter that can be malfunctional, try and swap the adapter with another one..




Q: I am getting bios corruption?? what to do?

A: This is fixed from bios 1.7 (for rev 1.x) and 1.1 (for rev2.0) so flash to the latest bios where this issue is resolved...




Q: I am getting Hdd corruptions?? what to do?

A: Update your bios to 1.9 (for rev 1.x) and 1.4 (for rev2.0) and you may have to change the "EXT-P2P's Discard Time"... check the release notes for the bios for the different settings.. Nvidia recommends 30 us and i recommend 1ms as im running it now without any problems...

Also if you are running very tight memory timings this can appear..
Run "CHKDSK /P" at recovery console or check bottom of this post for more details...

For maxtor drives..
(sorry for the long post but i dont wanna take the credits for this as it was roachtek who posted this)

Bios 19, Maxtor drives and data corruption
Silicon Image posted on their site that Maxtor ATA133 drives are incompatible on the SATA controller using sirillel adapters that incorporate the Marvell chip. This I have come to believe is due to corruption in mode 6 with this setup. By downgrading to mode 5 I have been able to allieviate the corruption issue and still use the .28 (non-crippled) drivers. I since have upgraded my bios to version 19 on my v1.2 board and done some testing.

I have concluded that the new setting to fix the corruption will allow the use of mode 6 (at least in my case, and hopefully many).

My methodology:

Flash bios 19 and clear cmos.
Reset bios to my configuration with no overclocking and 30us.
Set drives to mode 6 with Silicon Image's SATARaid utility.
Uninstalled 3dmark03 and rebooted.
Installed 3dmark03 and ran. Corruption!
Uninstalled 3dmark03 and rebooted.
Set EXT-P2P's Discard Time to 1ms in bios setup.
Booted into Windows and installed and ran 3dmark03. No corruption.

This method should allow anyone to find the best settings for their system regardless of drive maker.

Good luck.
By Roachtek
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Q: Serial Ata doesnt work since i downloaded bios 16 (on rev 1.x) and newer..

A: Download SIl 10028 driver on abits homepage...
---> http://www.abit-usa.com/drivers/10028.exe



Q: When loading windows, there´s a period when the system halts (Just when the winxp logo is appearing) when Hdd/hdd´s is attached to S-ata,

A: Try the SIl 1033 Drivers (check at top of post for link)




Q: Whats the new bios settings for in bios 1.7 (rev1.x) and 1.1(rev2.0) and newer about??

A:
"Cpu disconnect function" Is a function to get the cpu to an idle mode and lower the temperature when not doing anything on the computer.. (something like that, correct me if im wrong)

"Ide Bus master" Used to improve hdd speed when using "Norton Ghost"




Q: My Southbridge gets hot.. do i need to cool it?

A: That might be a good idea if you are experience problems with network, sound or other things at high fsb... Then you should fit some kind of cooler there.. (no need for a BIG one... a cooler from an old geforce2 mx card is sufficient for example...)




Q: What does the undocumentet jumper do (the one below the atx connector)??

A: The KBPWR1 jumper near the PS/2 keyboard is to switch the PS/2 keyboard/mouse power.

1-2 (default): PS/2 keyboard/mouse uses 5V dual power. When the system is off, optical mouse LED keeps light, and wake-up by keyboard/mouse function enabled.
2-3: PS/2 keyboard/mouse uses VCC power. When the system is off, optical mouse LED goes out, but wake-up by keyboard/mouse function disabled.

As for the unlabeled jumper near the LAN/USB ports, it is to switch the USB power.

1-2 (default): USB device uses 5V dual power. When the system is off, optical mouse LED keeps light, and wake-up by keyboard/mouse function enabled.
2-3: USB device uses VCC power. When the system is off, optical mouse LED goes out, but wake-up by keyboard/mouse function disabled..




Q: Why cant i use vcore over 1.850?? (The computer beeps like an ambulance)

A: Several reasons, could be that the cpu needs to be "burned in"
could be high case temp, bad cpu cooling, mosfets could get quite hot too so try to put some small heatsinks to them if possible, IT HELPS!...
I myself noticed that when changing vcore to a higher value than 1.850 and then save & Exit bios, the computer starts to beep.. Then just simply do a clear cmos and enter bios, and save & exit once again (without doing any changes) and it should restart with the higher value.. It worked for me so it might just work aswell for you




Q: USB 2.0 doesnt work???!!

A: Install Winxp Service pack 1, and then reinstall usb2 drivers or the whole nvidia unified package..




Q: Ive got a rather high idle cpu temp, even when im not doing anything.. (idling)

A: Winxp nvidia bug... there is a hotfix for that.. read more..
----> http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...kb;en-us;330512




Q: I have corsair 3200LL and the computer is instable??!!

A: Fixed in bios 16 (rev1.x) and later bios revs, (this also applies to other low latency ram)




Q: What´s the difference between Rev 1.2 and rev2??

A: Officiall support for barton (400mhz ddr)
Uses the Crush18D chipset
And the 4 holes around the cpu socket is better.. (one chip was moved to another location to prevent damage)
Something more perhaps that im not aware of...
Some general things is that most rev2 manages higher fsb without vdd modd..

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Some links...
Check your stepping
Shut down uneccesary programs in xp...
Here you find the optimal stepping code and look (amd tbred)
Mod your gf3,4 mm @ Maximum OC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Own Experience´s

My OLD rigg
ABIT NF7-S Rev1.2, TT Chrome orb @ NB, Abit chipset fan @ SB
2100+ AIUHB0301XPEW @ TT Volcano 11 w duct mod(modded)
Corsair 512mb XMS3200C (PC-3200)
and more but that covers the most relevant..

Volts
Sdram 2.8v in bios and 2.86v in pchealth
Chipset voltage 1.7v

Fsb
Mem/ratio
3/3 Didnt post @ 225 or higher
4/4 Post at 225mhz
5/5 Post at 227mhz
6/6 Didnt post @ 225 or higher
(Above results is just a test with max fsb to post, didnt boot into winxp)

Fsb that booted into xp
220fsb 4/4 W/O PCI ENHANCE PERFORMANCE (could run some apps but not superpi)
220fsb 4/4 W PCI ENHANCE PERFORMANCE (B.S.O.D)
217fsb 4/4 W PCI ENHANCE PERFORMANCE (could run some apps)

Worth to mention is that pci enhance performance DOES not give any more scores for memory or HDD test.. Ive tested it with different settings and it only gives problem for me...

24/7 settings..
214fsb @ 6-2-3-2, works with games, prime95, superpi and more...

Some issues
When trying cas3 it didnt boot at all.. (I guess corsair dont like cas3 :P )
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[size=3]NEW thing i noticed today! May be a workaround if u have got hdd corruption
I was trying to squeeze out the last of this memory today (fiddled with the timings 215fsb 6-2-2-2) and it resulted in corruption due to a memory problem.. Winxp´s boot logo didnt appear and there was just some text displaying that "the windows/system32/config/ was missing.. so i thought that i was screwed.. but nooo hehe..

A way to get round this without reinstalling xp was to have a floppy ready with sata drivers if you are running your os on it... and then the winxp install in cdrom and boot it up.. at the first screen when loading the winxp setup, it displays if you want to install third party drivers (press F6 here) and then install the SIL sata drivers (IF u have your os @ sata controller, if not just ignore that procedure) and then enter the recovery console later when it asks for if u would like to install winxp, repair xp or exit.. just press "R" here and when you are in the recovery console (just like the dos prompt) type "chkdsk /p" at your os partition and when its done, reboot...

It did work for me, it may not work for everyone but its worth a try if you experience this kind of problem..

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Hope this help some of u out there... I know that the information written in this thread isnt something new perhaps, but it would be good to gather all important info in one thread...

So keep posting about problems or just post comment about the F.A.Q


Thanks Tha_noname for the contribution!

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NF7-s 2.0 with 2700+ @ 11.5x225 Phase change cooling
Enermax 430 watt power
corsiar3500 XMS dual@ 11,3,2,2 on dual with small fan cooling memory
ATI 9800 XT 256 mb 460/420 water cooled with 3 80mm radiator fans
two WD raptor serial drives raid 0
water cooled northbridge soon, Zalmon heatsink cooling on southbridge, ramsinks on the mosfets
Two 80mm case fans.

Bass Ale coolent for me!
Computer chair seat belts made by Bradly racing.


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Diagnosing PC Hardware Problems

Here is a brief checklist for diagnosing hardware failures in PCs:

1. If you're getting a BIOS beep code, check the hardware associated with that code. (Start by removing and reseating the offending item)

2. If the machine won't boot after making BIOS setting changes, reset the BIOS by clearing the CMOS. There's a motherboard jumper that is used to do this. Follow the instructions in your motherboard manual.

3. If the machine boots and runs but is unstable, make sure your power supply is adequate. I recommend people with modern (P4 or Athlon-based machines) do this anyway! "300 Watts" just doesn't cut it anymore-- what kind of amperage is available on the +12V supply? If it's less than about 15 A, get a better supply!

4. If it does not boot after removing or changing cables, check the floppy and IDE cabling. If the IDE cable is backwards, the hard disk LED on the front of the PC will normally be continuously on. If the floppy is backwards you may only get a "floppy failure" message on the BIOS startup screen.

5. If the machine just won't start, remove everything except what's essential to get to the BIOS startup screen-- hard disks, CD players, extra memory, sound cards, everything. All that should be in there is a video card (if you aren't using on-board video), one stick of RAM and a keyboard. (Yes, that's really all you need!)

6. If the machine starts and makes it to the BIOS startup screen ("Press Del to enter setup"), begin adding components back in one at a time. Test the machine after adding each item until you arrive at the one that causes the machine not to start.

7. If the machine does not start in the minimum configuration, try each of your sticks of RAM in turn (the first one could have been bad!).

8. If the machine doesn't start in the minimum configuration, check the CPU and ensure that it is seated properly and that the cooler is attached properly. As an experiment, try a different CPU, or your CPU in a different machine.

9. If the CPU looks okay, try a different power supply. As an experment, try using your power supply in a different machine to ensure it's operating properly.

10. If you haven't found the problem yet, it's likely a motherboard failure. Time to call the manufacturer for an RMA (if it's still in warranty!).

Correction of grammas and so on made by JCMay.. (Thanks )



Ive never experienced a mobo problem so far except for the abit bx6 II (leaking capacitors that is fixed now) so make sure everything is correctly seated and connected before you are going to rma stuff..

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NF7-s 2.0 with 2700+ @ 11.5x225 Phase change cooling
Enermax 430 watt power
corsiar3500 XMS dual@ 11,3,2,2 on dual with small fan cooling memory
ATI 9800 XT 256 mb 460/420 water cooled with 3 80mm radiator fans
two WD raptor serial drives raid 0
water cooled northbridge soon, Zalmon heatsink cooling on southbridge, ramsinks on the mosfets
Two 80mm case fans.

Bass Ale coolent for me!
Computer chair seat belts made by Bradly racing.


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Your "How To" guide for setting up SATA and RAID Arrays!
Setting up SATA Drives and Raid Arrays

I have seen many posts on this forum regarding problems setting up SATA drives and Raid Arrays on the NF7-S motherboard. Most of the time the problem is jumper settings, errors in setting up the Raid array, or failure to install the drivers during the setup process. Below I will attempt to explain the correct way to install you SATA/Raid hard drives. This article is based on using either Windows XP or Windows 2000.

First we will cover new Raid and Non Raid installations, and then proceed to converting an IDE hard drive that has an operating system already loaded to work on SATA controller. At this point we need to clarify a few things that can and can not be accomplished using the SATA controllers.

1. You CAN use just one SATA controller at a time.
2. You CAN put one HDD on each SATA controller, and use them as two separate drives.
3. You CAN NOT boot from the SATA 2 controller.
4. You CAN create a Raid0 or Raid 1 array with a HDD on each controller (Using two identical drives is the best way)
5. You CAN NOT expect an increase in HDD speed when using IDE to SATA converters as these IDE drives are going to be either 33/66/100/133 mps data speed rates. Just putting an adapter on them will not make them to work at the 150 mps speed that SATA can do.

Setting Up Your Raid Array

Lets get started installing you new SATA configuration. In most cases remove all the jumpers from you hard drives, weather it’s a SATA drive or an IDE drive. Some IDE hard drives have the option of a jumper for “master with no slave present”, this works too in most cases. If you using SATA hard drives then hook up the power to them and install the SATA cables. If you are using the IDE to SATA converters then install the converters to the back of you IDE drive, install the power and the SATA cables.

You need to decide at this point if you want a Raid0 (Striped) array, Raid1 (Mirrored), or not to use the Raid function and just use the SATA ports to install one or two drives. Raid0 will give you much more performance and speed by combining both hard drives into one, thus enabling your system to draw information from two drives simultaneously. The down side to this is that if one of your hard drives should fail, you lose all your data and must reinstall everything once the defective drive is replaced. The best advice I can give is to do regular backups when using Raid0. The Raid1 option is where all data is written to both drives simultaneously. The good part about this is if one of your hard drives should fail, you can replace it and your data will stay intact. All you have to do is rebuild your array in the SATA bios and you are off and running again. The downside of course is performance, as all data is written twice. Remember that two identical drives are required for best performance weather using Raid0 or Raid1. If you plan on setting up a Raid array, then follow the steps below.

1. Boot your system and hit the F4 key to enter the Raid Configuration BIOS.
2. Once there you should see both of your hard drives listed near the center of the screen.
3. Choose create RAID set, choose either Striped (Raid0) or Mirrored (Raid1).
4. You should know that the default setting for a stripped array is 16k, many people suggest this setting for best performance, but you can set it any way you like from here. If 16k is what you want then no adjustment is necessary.
5. After choosing either Striped or Mirrored, the utility will ask you if you are sure, press “Y” to confirm your selection.
6. Exit the Utility.

If you are going to be using just one drive attached to the SATA 1 controller or a drive on both SATA controllers (no raid) then there is no need to enter the SATA bios, it should recognize your hard drives when you boot up. You may hit F4 when you see the option upon boot just to take a look that both your drives are seen by the silicon SATA bios, but it’s not necessary. If you do plan on setting up a Raid array, then of course use the F4 option and follow the steps outlined above.

NOTE Some users have reported non boot issues while using a Raid Array with BIOS version D21 or later on Rev. 2 boards. The Silicon Image Bios was updated in the D21 Bios release and has caused problems for many Raid users. It is suggested to continue using BIOS D20 until a fix for this problem is implemented.

Setting Cluster Size

Well, its time to make another decision as to the cluster size for your new Raid array. If you decided not to use the Raid function then you can choose to skip this section or you can set a cluster size on your non-raid setup. Setting a different cluster size for a single hard drive on a SATA port is not really necessary, but you can if you want to. At this point in the game if you start loading Windows, and format your new array, Windows will use the default cluster size of 4K, and there is no option to change it.. Remember that we have previously set the Stripe array at 16K while in the Raid configuration utility. If you let Windows Setup format your drives, you are going to end up with a 16K stripe and a 4K cluster. There have been many articles about what to set your Stripe and Cluster size at, but what ever you choose, my suggestion would be to make the Stripe equal to the Cluster. Since we have previously set the Stripe at 16K we are going to want to set up the cluster the same way. How you ask?? Well, you could go and buy a software package that will do it for you or we can do it another way, from within Windows. Follow the steps below for setting your cluster size in Windows.

1. Beg, borrow, or beg some more to get you hands on an extra IDE hard drive drive that is big enough to hold your copy of windows.
2. Install your IDE hard drive to IDE 1 slot and set it to Master.
3. Leave your newly created Raid array alone; leave both drives attached to your SATA ports.
4. Enter BIOS.
5. Set first boot device to CD Rom and set the onboard SATA to enabled.
6. Boot from CD rom and do NOT hit F6 to load 3rd party drivers.
7. After booting from CD Rom, load windows on your IDE drive. I would go into more detail but I’m sure you know how to install Windows on an IDE hard drive or you probably would not be reading this.
8. Once Windows is installed, get to the desktop.
9. Go into device manager and you will probably see one of those yellow question marks next to the Mass Storage Controllers. Go ahead and install the SATA drivers at this point and reboot. Don’t worry about any other drivers, because were only using this drive temporarily. We only loaded the SATA drivers so we can access your Raid array from Windows.
10. Once you are back in windows, go to control panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management. In the left window click once on disk management (near the bottom). In the bottom right window you should see a list of all the drives you have attached to your computer. Find your Raid array there, right click on it, choose format. A window will pop up asking you to label it, what file system you want, and the allocation unit size. You can label it anything you want, such as “MY DRIVE” or whatever you want, leave the file system at NTFS, and set your allocation unit size to 16K (This is your cluster size). Proceed to format the drive. NOTE: you can also create any partitions you want prior to formatting from here as well. Just make sure you format all partitions using the 16K allocation unit size (cluster size).
11. After the format procedure is finished, shut down the computer; remove the IDE drive that we just used to format your Raid array. Install all of your CD roms, setting them to the appropriate master/slave configuration, and any other NON hard drives you have on your IDE ports. It is important not to have any other IDE hard drives attached to your computer as we move on to the next step of loading Windows on you’re newly created and formatted Raid array or single SATA drive. You can install your IDE hard drives after Windows is loaded on to the Raid Array or single SATA drive



Installing Windows

Loading windows on a Raid array or any SATA drive can be a frustrating experience if the correct procedure is not followed. Follow the steps as I outline them below and you should be off and running in no time. Remember to remove any IDE hard drives!!

1. Start your computer and hit the delete key to enter BIOS.
2. Place your Windows CD in to your CD Rom device.
3. While still in BIOS, set your first boot device as CD Rom. Make double sure you’re onboard SATA is enabled also. Exit saving changes.
4. Your system will boot from the CD Rom, keep an eye on the bottom of the screen! When you see an option of pressing F6 to load third party drivers, DO IT!! You need to be paying attention because the F6 option is the first thing that comes up on the bottom of the screen, and it doesn’t stay there very long.
5. Windows will continue to load a bunch of generic drivers and come to a point where it tells you that you have chosen to install third party drivers. At this point grab the floppy disk that came with your motherboard and put it in your floppy drive. Follow the on screen instruction from there. You will notice after Windows reads the driver information from your floppy you will have several driver options to choose from, choose the Silicon 3112 driver for the appropriate version of windows you are loading. Continue on and windows should see your hard drive. When you see your hard drive or Raid array listed, choose it as the drive that windows should install on. DO NOT FORMAT IF IT’S YOUR RAID ARRAY OR SINGLE DRIVE THAT WE PREVIOUSLY FORMATTED WITHIN WINDOWS!! YOU WILL LOSE YOUR 16K CLUSTER SIZE IF YOU DO!! Windows should see your hard drive as formatted and ready to install on.
6. From this point on is like any other Windows install.
NOTE: If your using two hard drives without a raid setup, windows may see them both. When you get to the part where it asks you to select where you want to install windows, make sure you choose the one that is on the SATA 1 controller. It should be the one listed at the top. If it only shows one of your hard drives, don’t worry, it will show once you get windows loaded and you can initialize it later.

Converting an IDE drive to work on SATA

While converting an IDE drive to work on a SATA controller may not give you a performance boost, it will free up some room for other devices to be installed in your IDE controllers. If this is a new install then follow the procedures above. If you have a working copy of Windows installed on an IDE drive, and would like to convert it to work on a SATA controller, follow the steps below.

1. Restart your computer and enter BIOS.
2. Make sure the SATA controller in enabled in BIOS. If it was not, boot back into windows after enabling it and load the drivers for it. The drivers are on the floppy disk that came with your motherboard, use the Silicon Image 3112’s for the appropriate version of windows your running. If it was enabled in BIOS, check in device manager that the drivers are indeed loaded for it.
3. Once you are sure the drivers are installed in windows, turn off your computer.
4. In most cases, remove all jumpers from the IDE hard drive or set to master with no slave present.
5. Make sure to re-jumper your remaining IDE drives as you have just removed a device from the IDE chain.
6. Install the converter and power to the back of your IDE hard drive and install the cable, make sure you plug it into the SATA 1 controller
7. Start the computer and hit delete to enter BIOS.
8. Change your first boot device to the SATA controller, exit saving changes and the system should boot from your converted IDE drive.

Hopefully this guide will make the process of setting up Raid Arrays and SATA drives a bit less painful, Good Luck to All!!

Lvcoyote




Thanks for the Great work Lvcoyote !

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About the NF7-S - the basic questions answered
A word to new members...to answer some of the obvious questions...

Is the NF7-S a good motherboard?
Yes.

Is it fast?
Damn straight!

Is the nForce2 chipset any good?
I'd have to say yes. Overall its a pleasure to use. Its fast, responsive and quite probably the best choice for an AMD CPU based chipset.

But isn't integrated sound supposed to be rubbish?
Once upon a time, yes. AC'97 was the lowest of the low. In its infancy it was basic, problematic and used a lot of CPU power, but all that has changed now. The nForce2 MCP-T SoundStorm audio is nothing short of excellent. Having gone from a Creative SBLive to this chipset I'm very pleased. The Audio Control Panel is both useful and powerful, the sound quality is superb and its very easy to use. It really is as good, if not better than the Creative SBLive and similar cards.

What are the differences between the NF7 and NF7-S?
The NF7 lacks the SerialATA controller and SoundStorm Audio. The latter of course means you don't get the Audio Control Panel, the S/PDIF output, the 3D sound processing (primarily for games) and the AC-3 encoding.

Does it overclock well?
The BIOS settings available are the best you'll find, and they keep getting better. ABIT is very committed to the enthusiast market, and thus make their motherboards as tweakable as possible. The level of overclocking depends on the components you choose and a certain degree of luck, so choose well and cross your fingers. Also remember that your mileage may vary, there is no such thing as a guaranteed minimum in overclocking.

Will this motherboard unlock my CPU?
Technically no, however due to ABIT's "5bit FID" unlocking of the multipliers is not required as you will have access to all the multiplier values in the BIOS vis the SoftMenu III. The results are the same, and no tricky warranty voiding bridge painting required.

Which slots should I populate for DualDDR?
You should populate in reverse order from 3 to 1. The RAM slot that is furthest away from the CPU socket is DIMM3 and should be populated first. For DuallDDR you need a second DIMM and this should be placed in the middle RAM slot which is DIMM2. The RAM slot nearest the CPU is DIMM1 and should be populated last.

How can I verify that my RAM is running Synchronously and/or in DualDDR mode?
This is actually quite difficult. It would be nice if the POST screen you see on boot told you if you were running in Synchronous FSB and/or DualDDR, but at this time it doesn't. As far as I know there aren't any tools for testing this either. For now you have to assume that if you have put your RAM in slots 2 and 3 then DualDDR is in effect, and if your FSB ratio is at a 1/1 value (3/3, 4/4, 5/5, 6/6) then its running Synchronously.

Is it problem free?
Largely, yes. There are a few known issues, but ABIT is doing a very fine job of trying to perfect this motherboard. I (and many others) have the fullest confidence in ABIT making this good motherboard even better.

Do you REALLY believe that?
Yes. Look at the support ABIT did and is still doing for motherboards like the KT7. Its about 2-3 years old and they still occasionally release BIOS's. It wasn't perfect to begin with, but its now considered one of ABIT's most successful motherboards.

Should I buy this motherboard?
Yes, but I suggest you speak to the retailer and ensure that they have motherboards in stock which have had the Mic issue resolved, unless you don't mind RMAing the motherboard yourself to have this issue fixed.

Should I wait for revision x.x?
That's up to you. While later revisions can always be expected to be better in some way, some of the differences may be so minimal that they have no impact to you. For example the known differences between the revision 1.0 and 1.1 are mounting holes around the CPU socket and slightly different component packages (different capacitors, etc). Overall the motherboards are feature identical. So the question in that case is 'do you need the mounting holes'? Of course you could be waiting a long time too as there is rarely any information on when these revisions are going into retail circulation.

If the NF7-S is so good why are there so many people in this forum complaining?
Its a support forum for people who want support, if they didn't have a problem they wouldn't be here. It is put here and maintained by some of the staff of ABIT USA, who do this purely out of the goodness of their own hearts. People don't say anything when they are happy, as they don't have much to say, but when there's a problem they have plenty to say. I suppose that's human nature. So don't assume that everyone here is here because they have this motherboard, as most of them are only here as they have a problem.

Why is ABIT any better than (insert brand here)?
ABIT is committed to the enthusiast market, more so than any other brand. Many consider ABIT as one of the founding fathers of the enthusiast and overclocking communities and I have to agree. While the larger companies like Asus, Gigabyte and MSI were busy working on various integrated motherboards for use in OEM machines, ABIT were developing things like SoftMenu and their MAX series. Of course there are a lot more enthusiast products available now but ABIT has the experience since they were here at the start.

But there are some problems, so what are ABIT dong about them?
OK, nobody's perfect, but ABIT will do everything they can to rectify any issues that are within their control. Please remember that they make the motherboards not the chipsets, drivers or other components. They do of course make other components, but this is a motherboards forum so put that to the back of your mind for a moment. Some of the issues people experience have to be addressed by the chipset manufacturer (nVidia in this case) in their driver software, so that's not down to ABIT but they will endeavour to get answers where possible.

I'm not from the US, so can I expect help?
The staff of ABIT USA are good people who will try and help you verbally, as will the more dedicated forum members, but you can't expect direct help. For that you have to contact your nearest ABIT offices. See the back of your manual, or the contacts section of the ABIT site.

Who are you and why should I listen to you?
I'm just a normal person (well, fairly). I have owned several ABIT motherboards (KA7, KT7, NF7-S) as well as some other brands (Asus, Chaintech, Gigabyte, MSI). I like ABIT motherboards, their BIOS's are excellent and the motherboard features are always of a useful nature. They are not perfect, but at least they are trying to make themselves and their products better.

Are you sure you don't work for ABIT?
Absolutely sure. I wish! I'm a 'Client Side Developer' for one of the worlds largest media organisations.

So, then, why are you writing all this?
Because I don't think its fair on this motherboard, and on ABIT, for people to read this forum and think its a bad motherboard, and I'm trying to stop the same questions being asked repeatedly. I'm just trying to set the record straight.


Thanks for the great work FraZor !

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Enermax 430 watt power
corsiar3500 XMS dual@ 11,3,2,2 on dual with small fan cooling memory
ATI 9800 XT 256 mb 460/420 water cooled with 3 80mm radiator fans
two WD raptor serial drives raid 0
water cooled northbridge soon, Zalmon heatsink cooling on southbridge, ramsinks on the mosfets
Two 80mm case fans.

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**Abit NF7-S Beep Codes
Basic Beep Codes for ABIT AWARD BIOS Motherboards

No beep at all - this means your motherboard is dead, either due to a defective or underpowered power supply, poorly seated CPU or RAM, or a dead-on-arrival board


One beep - board is working fine


One long beep then machine shuts down - faulty, improperly installed or missing CPU


1 short(Beep) System booting is normally


2 short(Beep) CMOS setting error


1 long - 1 short(Beep) DRAM ERROR


1 long - 2 short(Beep) Display card or monitor connected error


1 long - 3 short(Beep) Keyboard Error


1 long - 9 short(Beep) ROM Error


Long(Beep) continuous DRAM isn't inserted correctly


Short(Beep) continuous POWER supply has a problem


A two-tone siren, generally caused by overheating or out of specification voltages


Four beeps then machine shuts down. This is because this version of the BIOS will shut down your machine if no fan tachometer signal is detected on the fan header. Make sure you attach a fan to the FAN1 or FAN4 header or clear CMOS to reset to default (no checking).


Thanks to Paul Howland & Overclockers for providing the information.


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ATI 9800 XT 256 mb 460/420 water cooled with 3 80mm radiator fans
two WD raptor serial drives raid 0
water cooled northbridge soon, Zalmon heatsink cooling on southbridge, ramsinks on the mosfets
Two 80mm case fans.

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Some Very Helpful Links.
Hey guys,

Had nothing to do in my spare time so i thought i would post some very helpful links. Hope this is the right forum.

System Temps and Monitors:


http://mbm.livewiredev.com/

Abit monitoring software. ONLY to be used with ABIT motherboards.

http://www.abit-usa.com/downloads/utility/

BenchMarks:

3DMark2k3
http://majorgeeks.com/download1712.html

3DMark2k1
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=99


SiSoft Sandra Standard
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/fi...fid,4005,00.asp

PCMark 2004
http://majorgeeks.com/download4051.html

CPU Specs and System Specs Identification:

SiSoft Sandra Standard
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/fi...fid,4005,00.asp

WCPUID

http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA00...c/download.html

CPU-Z
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

Stability Tests:

Prime95
http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm

CPU And Motherboard Modding:

Pin Mod
http://www.ocinside.de/go_e.html?/h...amd_pinmod.html

Volt Mods for NF7-S and other motherboards.
http://www.8rdafaq.com/news.php

Video Card Overclocking:


Powerstrip
http://www.theenforcers.net/downloads/pstrip.exe


If you know of any other important links send me a PM and i will put them up.

Extreme



Thanks for the great post Extreme!

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Enermax 430 watt power
corsiar3500 XMS dual@ 11,3,2,2 on dual with small fan cooling memory
ATI 9800 XT 256 mb 460/420 water cooled with 3 80mm radiator fans
two WD raptor serial drives raid 0
water cooled northbridge soon, Zalmon heatsink cooling on southbridge, ramsinks on the mosfets
Two 80mm case fans.

Bass Ale coolent for me!
Computer chair seat belts made by Bradly racing.


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